PDF Export Problem Relief paint

[Fleckwood]

Hello,

i want to export an business card with an relief paint. The problem is the export. The backround has an cymk all 100% (black). After the export the pdf has an CYMK 82% 80% 43% 95%. So whats the failure?

Export settings: pdf/x-3:2003 / CYMK / ISO Coated v2 300% ISO / BLACK Overpaint / Spot colors experience

 

 

Hallo,

 

Ich möchte eine Visitenkarte mit Relieflack exportieren. Der Hintergrund soll 100% schwarz sein. Leider ist die .pdf danach mit einem CYMK Wert 82% 80% 43% 95%. 

 

Die Export Einstellungen: pdf/x-3:2003 / CYMK / ISO Coated v2 300% ISO / Schwarz überdrucken / Schmuckfarben übernehmen 

 

[lacerto]

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[wonderings]

Instead of using all those settings, what happens to the black if you just export as a print ready PDF?

 

[Fleckwood]

39 minutes ago, Lagarto said:

You might have an effect applied to the relief or some other element in the job that causes rasterization of the background, resulting in four-color black. If possible, please post the Affinity document on the forum, or at least a screenshot of the Layers panel showing how your document is created. Which Affinity app are you using for the production, and which viewer app do you use to confirm the exported color values?

I just get this "bad" CYMK when I choose in export the "pdf/x-3:2003" When I use pdf. 1.7 i get the perfect resulution. But I need for the print "pdf/x-3:2003

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[Fleckwood]

22 minutes ago, wonderings said:

Instead of using all those settings, what happens to the black if you just export as a print ready PDF?

 

It works, but the print company can`t use the for "relief prints". They need pdf/x-3:2003

[wonderings]

For one, your document colour setting is RGB, I would always start with CMYK or whatever colour space you want to use. 

When I export the PDF using print ready settings, turning off all compression, adding crop marks and bleed and allowing spots for your spot coating I get a CMYK makeup of 100 100 30 100 as it was set in the file. I changed it to 100% CMYK and exported it using print settings, turned off all compression, allowed spot, added crops and bleeds. Looks fine to me. What are you trying to achieve?

 

Test Export.pdf

[lacerto]

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[lacerto]

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[Bryce]

As a printer I would be very upset with somebody who gave me a file that had a solid of 400% ink. In fact, it has happened quite a few times and I go in and change the PDF to be what people want and not what they give me. There is not a single good reason for having that kind of density. It will cause a mess on the press (even digital could be a problem) and the ink will not want to dry. A super black can easily be achieved by a much lower density of 25 25 25 100 that will dry and have much faster turnaround.

[lacerto]

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[wonderings]

8 hours ago, Bryce said:

As a printer I would be very upset with somebody who gave me a file that had a solid of 400% ink. In fact, it has happened quite a few times and I go in and change the PDF to be what people want and not what they give me. There is not a single good reason for having that kind of density. It will cause a mess on the press (even digital could be a problem) and the ink will not want to dry. A super black can easily be achieved by a much lower density of 25 25 25 100 that will dry and have much faster turnaround.

 Definitely an issue on press and not something I ever use, but have seen it a lot. Never had issues with files set that way on digital presses so I don't normally bother if it is a digital run. I have always used 60 40 40 100 for Rich black, gives good results.