[Confused with RAW/Affinity compatibility]

Thank you for the explanation on the process. My question is what information do I lose from shooting in RAW to the Develop Persona for adjustment?

This is what I don't understand. Aperture has RAW but they pushed that boat from shore. Others have it. My consideration is why shoot RAW if AF can't use all the information? Or, why use AF? Why should I learn a tool which diminishes my original information? I am inquiring about what I feel is a simple question, maybe not phrased or asked in the correct technical manner, but, basically, what do I lose, if anything, going from RAW to Develop? And then, exporting it in a non RAW format?

Thanks

Stuart

[Confused with RAW/Affinity compatibility]

I shoot RAW so I get more latitude in developing. Affinity I am just starting, bought the book, etc. Still at the starting gate. But, I don;t understand what happens or why or what I lose by shooting in RAW and then using Affinity?

Used Aperture before, still am. Before I invest a bunch of time in Affinity, please explain what happens to my RAW image being edited in Affinity and whether I have the exact same info and latitude?

Thanks

Stuart

[How to START in Affinity?]

OK, back to photo editing, involved in other parts of my life, now to, hopefully, feel confident to start the process. 

BUT, probably because of my end, I do not understand, though others have participated on this very helpful forum, what I feel to be a basic question. Was at the Apple store today, downloading my photos from my iPhone. I also have downloaded in Aperture RAW photos. Affinity apparently does not do this, and I am wondering what I am missing and/or if I should try another editing app?

 

My understanding is if I shoot in RAW I have maybe five stops latitude on either side. 

Do I lose this extended range when I start using Affinity? Am I losing any potential information which can be used when I start the adjustment process in AF? If so, why use AF?

Or, why shoot in RAW if I use Affinity? I do it because my understanding is RAW give me more information to adjust.

Can someone please give a simple, clear explanation to my apparently limited understanding?

Thanks

Stuart

[Following Video Tutorials and Basic Concepts (Split)]

Twice in this series of responses I have gotten the raw 'snobbery' reference and then extended darkroom parallels. I had a darkroom in New York in my studio, converted it to storage and sent my stuff out to high end printers, I did not want to shoot all day and be in the darkroom all night, charging the client for any prints and processing, with a mark up.

So, I am baffled by whatever opinion people may have of raw, if a format offers me more information than jpeg and is called DUNG, fine by me. I just want to start in Affinity, and have not yet, waylaid by essentially no information if one shoots in raw. Look it up in the book that I paid $45 for, I was perplexed, now I sorta get that I can import to Develop in raw, but then have to jump to another persona to use the juicy stuff, and how to label stuff and keep the original I am still trying to figure out. The video Tutorials have no index, very weird to me. Why NOT? And the four or five raw tutorials (who knows there could be more, did not feel like going through 29 pages of multiple subjects), did not go into why or how or what process raw is being used in Affinity, rather more into its Develop adjustments. Basically nothing in the book either.

 

The whole process is heavy loaded into Intermediate or Advanced, this is a bummer for me. I am about to try and pay for Eager Learner tutorials, I feel the Affinity stuff is too fancy and negligent for a basic, beginner. For example the book starts with "we assume" a few times, then I have to go to page 82 to start? Shows where the priorities are. I have said too much, everyone has been very helpful, thanks, but I do not feel what Affinity offers a beginner is useful. If it had been, I would not be here whining and winging. So, off to Eager Learner or other sources, hopefully I will get it, and will be back  soon...:) Cheers

Stuart 

[Following Video Tutorials and Basic Concepts (Split)]

Is there an Index or Search for the over 200 Affinity Tutorials on Vimeo ?

Is the same on Youtube, and does it have either a Search or Index window?

How to find a particular subject on the tutorials?

Thx

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Hi All, With much gratitude for the time and explanations, wow, can't wait to get to a simple question with a simple answer. Will review all of the above once more, AND I found  Affinity tutorials on raw, which I will watch. There is no "Search" link  on the tutorials, WHY NOT? Moderators, does this not seem logical, can you please pass it on, reasonable to be able to look something up, maybe I missed an Index?

Nevertheless, I have my homework to do, and look forward to begin the process of adjustments

Great group on this Forum, thanks!

Stuart

[Following Video Tutorials and Basic Concepts (Split)]

"might (choose to) lose certain things coming out of it"

your statement above

 

OK, rephrase my question, do I lose ANYTHING in any part of the process from my raw information  when I enter, process or leave Develop in 

Affinity?

 

Yes, if I export it to jpeg, got it, but my concern, which I have not understood the answer to, is during any part of using  Develop is my image  degraded, loses pixels, whatever? And if so, by how much?

 

thanks, Stuart

[Following Video Tutorials and Basic Concepts (Split)]

Steve, and Ed, am sitting in your grand daughter's kindergarten class and they are all looking at me like I am a moron, "...what's wrong with this guy? doesn't he get it?..."

Lots of information, thanks again for your time and consideration. Since everything is now theoretical, much of the above will not make sense until I actually begin the process. The adjustment (of photos) process I feel will be relatively straightforward, learning location of tools, sliders, looking at brush options etc etc

But I do not yet get the entire raw transformation in Develop.

 

Understood that the original is and will stay in raw, but once it goes into Develop is anything at all lost in it quality? This is what I need to have answered please. If not, fine,  it is a renaming or something process but none of the ingredients are lost. Is this correct?

I just want to make sure ALL the raw information is transferred to Develop and I have the full amount of the raw info to use, no matter how it is termed.

If I do lose something going into Develop, then I either have to shoot a different way or use a another editing system.

I wish Affinity would clearly explain this, maybe they do and I have not seen it, but it seems like one of the most basic considerations to explain to beginners, again, thanks for your patience and sharing

 

Stuart

 

[Following Video Tutorials and Basic Concepts (Split)]

Steve, Thanks for your time, consideration and explanations! 

My understanding is shooting raw takes more space, granted, but it provides more latitude in adjustments.

I do not understand what happens when my raw pix go to Develop Persona. Are they converted to jpeg? Do I lose the extra two stops either side of my original exposure? If I do not have the latitude because Affinity converts it, why shoot raw, or why use Affinity at all? Is all the material there just under a different name? I just want as much information to work with and if I have a lot from the camera and Affinity reduces it, then I am working with less than with what I started.

 

Nor do I understand when the Save As happens? My, possibly incorrect, understanding was to start with it, and to re name it in some manner, thus preserving the original?  This takes place at the beginning of the process, right?

 

Besides being very complicated learning how to even start this program, now I am confused by the whole raw conversion process in Developer, I had not even thought this would be a consideration, so I have to try and figure out now what this really means to me, or whether it is just a re naming process without losing anything...?

Cheers

Stuart

[Following Video Tutorials and Basic Concepts (Split)]

Alfred, Thanks for the clarification on Save As location determination and raw response.

Next, am a bit confused-if I shoot in raw, which is what I would guess most people do using Affinity, and Affinity "does not save or export raw formats", then are you saying the , for me, exposure advantage shooting raw is negated by using Affinity?

This does not make sense to me, if I have an advantage shooting raw, the Affinity manipulation and export is not done in raw?

Nor can I "save or export to raw formats" ?

Obviously, I need expiation/instruction on what appears to me an adjustment/manipulation system restricted to JPEG?

Confused but thanks for time

Stuart

[Following Video Tutorials and Basic Concepts (Split)]

Steve, thanks for your time and the response.

First, you have given me an option on how to label a Save As, ie Yosemite A, Hawaii A, 747 A. That clearly distinguishes for me a modified from the original.

But, if I am importing in Photos (Mac), and editing/making an Affinity Save As, will these new versions be stored in the same ( I guess) place with the original?

 How and where to store the Save As images-since this is what it is all about, for me, anyway, modifying and adjusting the image. I just want to know if I have to do anything more after I go to Save As, which I will be doing with everything on Affinity?

 

Secondly, I shoot in RAW, and your second paragraph discusses JPEG. I do not feel there is enough information for me to determine how/why/where the Affinity process works with these two formats. I have about five stops extra shooting raw, why is this a separate category? Do I have to do anything different if I want to adjust in raw? If so,  where are the modified Save As, Yosemite A, for example, images  stored, and are they stored in raw?

 

Yes, I get it that I must do a very slow dance, but I had hoped to be able to find a process, whether video, book or tutorial, which could walk me through from the very beginning. I used Aperture, liked it, then Apple pushed the boat from shore, so there are a few skills, and I used to be a New York  professional photographer and DP on films, so there is a visual background, but not a computer based Let's Get Started simple explanation for Affinity..

Patiently plugging along, want to get the basics down before I even begin the adjustments...... Stuart

[Following Video Tutorials and Basic Concepts (Split)]

You know, I am at the beginning of the  Affinity Getting Started video and it does not even mention using Save As!

This is very frustrating, to be able to find a clear, sequential, consistent set of tools with which to use to even start the process....

I don't care whether it is the "official' or not version but is there not a generally accepted method of just starting?

i don;t care about adjustments at this point, I simply would like information on how to import a photograph, label it, (save it by Save As?), and where and how to store/label it and be able to find it in Photos.

[Following Video Tutorials and Basic Concepts (Split)]

ps

I am importing my photos in Photos on a Mac,  so when I use a Save As on Affinity, are both the original and the Save As stored in the same place?

Sorry for the questions which may seem obvious to all, but I just want to get off properly for importing, storage and adjustments

Thanks

Stuart

[Following Video Tutorials and Basic Concepts (Split)]

Alfred, thanks for clarity. If my original is, say, "Yosemite" and I make a Save As version, the original is its own file and the Save As essentially a duplicate?

Any suggestion how to clarify the labeling on  "Save As" that I can use for all future duplicates, that can distinguish between the original and the duplicates, any hints or standard practice? Much appreciation, now I will move on...

Cheers

Stuart

[Following Video Tutorials and Basic Concepts (Split)]

(Split by Moderator from this source thread on Affinity Photo Video Tutorials)

 

Am a Beginner Beginner, viewed the first tutorial 

Question:  Before I begin any adjustments or editing of an image, am I to go to File., then Save As before I begin work on the image?

It would be good if the guy did a re cap at the end of the tutorial, a "this is what I just told you"

So, I am still not clear on even how to begin.

Is this File, Save As, basically a duplicate that I can work on and the original is saved?

Again, the developers in my opinion need to get over the assumption that we are at their level. I need a very basic one, two, three, and it seems each method of instruction is light on the Very Beginners area.

Thx

Stuart

[How to START in Affinity?]

drippy cat, will send in my info for the 90 page tutorial, many thanks!  Stuart

 

 

[How to START in Affinity?]

Thanks, all! Had not realized there were responses, just modified my settings. Very supportive forum, much appreciation, will review the above suggestions and contributions and start doing my homework. Many thanks, Stuart

[How to START in Affinity?]

Bought the $45 book and it starts by saying " the projects in this book assume you have a working knowledge of the interface" and continues to the next page, (nine), Master the Core Skills headline and first sentence is " ...also assume you have mastered the core skills..." etc and refers to page 85. 

"assume, assume..." Please, do not assume, the who organized the book. Or make it clear it is not the book for which to get started.

 

This is illogical, frustrating and confusing to me. I would expect a crawl, walk, run sequence, but, no, the developers "assume" too blanking much to provide a one, two three approach. I am an absolute beginner in Affinity, Aperture was sent out to sea and I am still clinging to it.

 

Understood, there are many Affinity videos which get good reviews, but, again, the index of the topics listed as the first topic here show different places to start, thus my request, which I feel needs to be addressed by the organizers: Please show me the most basic introductory video, (since the book investment is wasted until I am up to speed), then the next, and the one following and let me skip the ones I may know. 

Is there not a numbering system for the videos when one starts? Then, later, I can certainly understand going into more depth with the various tools, but it seems that the folks are so well advanced that they do not understand or put much effort into the very basic beginning steps.

So, is there an index of sorts, a Start Here, then Next Step, etc. in the videos? Is there a Beginning I, II, III system or something which I can use as a basis for starting the tutorials?

Thanks,

Stuart

PS is there a way to see the Affinity users in my area to maybe contact them and get together to learn/teach?

[How to add © Copyright info to Metadata?]

Many thanks, again, for the help and suggestions! Stuart

[How to add © Copyright info to Metadata?]

Lots of time and information shared by many knowledgeable people, much appreciation!

A simple question has been answered, will use a third party program. This is not a high priority for me but useful in certain situations. Friends have had their photos copied in spite of extensive protection efforts. Will also see if my camera settings provide the © info, thanks for that!

Am just starting at the very beginning of AF, going over the tutorials and relieved to have found a comfortable Aperture replacement. And a Forum board with many sharing folks!

Cheers and thanks,

Stuart

www.vineyardvideo.com, some old images, fyi...

[How to add © Copyright info to Metadata?]

Hi All, My initial observation, opinion and suggestion still stands:

- Affinity does not have a © copyright metadata option

-My (polite!) opinion and suggestion is that Affinity provide it.

Lightroom does, do something similar

Windows or third party options was not being discussed and appreciation for the options, but I just want to stay with Affinity.

 

I am just a newbie, going to use Photos with Affinity, and I look forward to what I hope will be a good combination after have been dumped by Aperture. Some of my photos will be combined with those of another photographer for a magazine article and I wanted to include the © symbol and info for identification purposes if they got the photos confused, that was the reason behind my initial question.

Thanks, Stuart

(btw, some of the mentioned photos: www.sfboatphotos.com)

[How to add © Copyright info to Metadata?]

Thanks! Very useful information and appreciate the time and considerations from those responding.

Yes, I understand there is no foolproof protection, and I also understand that supposed protection information embedded in a photo will not deter those doing mischief.

Understandably,  a watermark can be used, but that is not my concern.

I just think Affinity should offer, as does Lightroom, an option to include certain info re photo ownership and contact info, which they do not do now. Affinity seems to use a "Description" offer for what is an entirely different subject, notwithstanding the above, and correct comments, re potential abuse. 

I think Affinity should at least make an option to include a © symbol, date, name, etc. which, apparently they do not now offer. Regardless of those not heeding it, I feel this option should be a basic and fundamental  piece of information on a photo, and not have a high end photo adjustment company make a decision for the creators  of the image.

Cheers

Stuart

 

 

 

[How to add © Copyright info to Metadata?]

MEB, thanks for time, advice and forum directions

Cheers

Stuart

[How to add © Copyright info to Metadata?]

MEB, ahhh, my first posting was to iPad and the one you responded to was done correctly, in the General Questions forum?

If so, thanks, will just leave the iPad question there, does not seem to do any harm and if read by anyone will bring up what I feel is a very important element which is now missing from Affinity.

Is this the best/only way to contact them and ask for what is simply a very basic part of any professional photo editing system-a method to protect the image? 

This should be addressed immediately in my view. A simple click to choose which © info to be attached to a photo, which is NOT a 
"Description" and should have its own link. What Affinity is doing is providing image adjustment tools without any photo protection whatsoever-unless put in "Description", two entirely different subjects

Thx

[How to add © Copyright info to Metadata?]

MEB

Difficulty following your directions for posting, this is what I get every time, ending in iPad