How to: Positioning of Footnotes in Publisher

[ramos_berlin]

Hi, i´m trying to work with footnotes in Publisher (latest Version). The Positioning of the footnotes and therefor the textflow is unpredictable and i can´t find the right way to fix that. 
The example shows a situation, where the text breaks to the next page with a single line because of the foot-note at the end of that line. 
BUT: the textline and the footnote could have positioned on the page before - there is enough space. 
What to do?

[Oufti]

2 hours ago, ramos_berlin said:

The example shows a situation, where the text breaks to the next page with a single line because of the foot-note at the end of that line. 
BUT: the textline and the footnote could have positioned on the page before - there is enough space. 
What to do?

You should check what are the settings for Text > Paragraph > Flow control. A screenshot of it could be useful. 

[ramos_berlin]

Choosing the Options at Text> Paragraph > Flow only resulting in adding one line more on the secnd page. That does not bring the footnote to the previous page (that´s what i want to archive).
Can i move the foot-notes manually? 

[MikeTO]

You can't move footnotes manually and this is a bug with the footnote fitting code that hasn't been fixed yet. There's nothing you can do to make that footnote appear where it should be. There are no workarounds for this.

I don't recall if this bug has been officially logged before so I'll create a bug report for it. I've made a test document similar to. yours to illustrate the problem - this is a very easy bug to duplicate.

Bug report:

 

[ramos_berlin]

Thanks a lot!

[Affinity Info Bot]

The issue "Bottom of Frame Footnote isn't fitting even though room at end of second column" (REF: AF-5346) has been fixed by the developers in the latest beta build (2.6.0.3027). The fix is planned for inclusion in the next customer release.
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[elbchaussee]

I still have this issue, either with the "official" version 2.6.0 or with the beta version 2.6.2.3228 as you can see below. The screenshots are taken from the beta version.

There is enough space on page 35 to include text from page 36 and at least footnote 16 if not 17 too.

Any ideas how to resolve the problem at the moment? (I don't want to do the book layout with Indesign ...)

[MikeTO]

@elbchaussee Perhaps this is a Flow Options issue. What are the Flow Options settings for the body text and the footnotes?

[elbchaussee]

Yeah, you have been right (as usual). I set the Flow Options in the Text Style Editor to "Keep with previous paragraph" - et voilà. Thank you very much.

[Oufti]

14 hours ago, elbchaussee said:

I set the Flow Options in the Text Style Editor to "Keep with previous paragraph" - et voilà.

Super if it solves your problem! But take care that such a setting can also cause trouble when included in a style definition (vs. a local formatting), since if this text style definition is to always keep a paragraph with the previous one, what will happen when you have more  paragraphs with that text style than what a page can contain?… 

[damdam]

Hello,

I guess I have a similar issue.
I expect the foot note 8 to be on the left page but somehow it moved to the right one.
I've read the conversation above but I could not solve my problem.

Any tip?

 

[MikeTO]

I think it's a bug but without seeing the document or at least a screenshot it is difficult to tell if this is due to your document's settings.

There was a recently-reported bug with fitting footnotes with baseline grid on for the document but off for the text containing the reference marker.

[damdam]

Hello @MikeTO.

I did upload a screenshot of the flow settings. Can you see it?

[MikeTO]

8 minutes ago, damdam said:

Hello @MikeTO.

I did upload a screenshot of the flow settings. Can you see it?

Yes but I can't tell what the flow settings are for because the text cursor isn't visible. Are those the settings for the main text, footnote 8, or footnote 9? I'd really like to see all of that.

I'd also want to see the baseline grid manager settings and the Paragraph > Spacing settings for the main text and both of the footnotes.

I'd also check for any objects that might have text wrap applied. And because there was a bug with text wrap and Layers, for the presence of any Layers. If you don't have any Layers and there are no objects on the page, try inserting a page break before the first character on the page and if you get the same results on the next page then you can probably ignore all of that as a source of the issue.

Good luck

[damdam]

Ok MikeTo, I'll have a look tomorrow or Saturday and will come back here after.

Thanks for those tips!