Textbox Issue - breaking too early

[yingers]

Hello!

I am an Affinity novice, I hope I am posting in the right section.  I have been chugging along just fine by lots of googling and searching whenever I run into issues.  I am working with Publisher right now, and have (maybe) solved my initial issue where upon copying/pasting text in, a new sentence would appear waaaayyy down at the bottom of the textbox, and I couldn't manage to bring it back up even with changing line spacing (is just made the lines on each paragraph merge together...).  I don't know if this issue will come back, but it seems to be at bay with twiddling the text box settings.

The issue I have here is that when I copy in the text box, it breaks the line too early (e.g. why is "established" in the first line, hyphenated so early, when clearly there is a lot more that could fit on that line, yet, it hyphenates "offers" at the end of the fourth line much further to the right?). I do not think it is a right indent issue, and I have tried various justification settings, and I have also turned on auto-hyphenation.

Affinity also seems to sometimes include a space at the front of my text (in this textbox if only happens once, beginning of line 4, where the text is not justified before the "with".

Any support you could give would be greatly appreciated!

 

Edited October 31, 2024 by yingers

[yingers]

Quick update. It seems like it is the font settings that is the problem, as I definitely have that font in other areas of the document, that do not have this issue.

This is close to how I'd like it, except for the weirdly early hyphenation, and the random spaces on the LHS highlighted (L4, L8).  Will post text settings too after.

Edited October 31, 2024 by yingers

[walt.farrell]

7 minutes ago, yingers said:

I am also not the hugest fan of the alignment in the bottom text box, as I would like them all to be justified without the first line of the paragraph being on the edge of the textbox, and the subsequent lines with a small hanging indent.

It would help to have a sample .afpub document with that Text Frame so we can see all the settings you're using (Character panel, Paragraph panel, etc.).

[yingers]

@walt.farrell I will upload the doc here instead of screenshotting the character / paragraph panel

Sample_TextIssue.afpub

[paleolith]

Hyphenation and line breaks work normally for me in your document. Are you on Windows or MacOSX? What version of Affinity Publisher?

[yingers]

That's so weird T_T

 

I'm on MacOs.  Using the Canva NFP version of Affinity Publisher.

[MikeTO]

Usually when this happens it's because you have formatted some of the next with No Break which is an invisible attribute. I don't see that in your test file, but it's not the original file. Some of the words in that paragraph are missing now, such as research-"driven universities in the Czech Republic", so we can't see what was up with the original file.

[yingers]

Hrm, I wonder if it would help if I screenshot the Character/Paragraph panels?

[paleolith]

5 minutes ago, MikeTO said:

"driven universities in the Czech Republic"

Which is, suspiciously, exactly one line as displayed albeit without the trailing comma on that line.

I'm using the same version, but on Windows. I see that the font is Noto Sans Lao Looped, which I do not have, though I have Noto Sans Lao. I don't know what difference that could make.

[yingers]

@mikeTO where can I find the "no break" attribute? I don't see it when searching on the help drop-down menu.  I've also tried copy-pasting into VS code, and then copying into Affinity, but that didn't help either.  I've also tried manually typing, and it still has the same issue.

[yingers]

There is also no difference between the sample text file and the original in terms of formatting.  I have made a copy from my original file, and deleted pages with private information on them.  No formatting changes, or other changes other than page deletion / making text more generic were made.

[yingers]

Thank you all for being such fast responders.  I am very very appreciative of the time you are all taking to find what is happening.

[paleolith]

"No break" is a check box in the "position and transform" section of the Character panel. (You can find it by searching MikeTO's manual!)

We need to see a screen shot of a sample file you can share showing the bad hyphenation. There may be "no difference in terms of formatting", but clearly some difference exists.

[yingers]

Potentially it is fixed!

I adjusted the weight to 300 (it was much higher before) and it seems to be doing the right thing now!  I have no idea what that is, but I am on a bit of a time crunch and don't have that much time to research / understand better until after some deadlines.  I would however be appreciative of a response if there might be someone that could explain why this manages to make the text visible in the way that I've been wanting.

[yingers]

7 minutes ago, paleolith said:

but clearly some difference exists

I would definitely agree. I'm not sure what I've done, but I'm very very appreciative to you all for taking the time to look into this.  This does seem like a great community, and I have no doubt I'll be posting more as I have more and more issues

 

Thank you once again!!

[paleolith]

5 minutes ago, yingers said:

adjusted the weight to 300

I'm unable to access that drop-down, presumably because I don't have the same font. I can imagine that increasing the weight could enlarge the space required for the glyph, creating a conflict with either the edge of the frame or with another line of text, hence forcing text to the next line.