Running Header issue, or something else?

[walt.farrell]

Prompted by someone's question in the forums, I thought I'd play around a bit with Running Headers in Publisher 2.1. I think I was on iPad at the time, but I've also created the issue on Windows today.

Setup:

1. I made a 3-page document, with a Master Page. I put text frames on the Master Page, and linked them. I put a smaller text frame at the bottom of each page.
2. I inserted the <Running Header> field into those bottom text frames. Standard Running Header (RH) settings from the Fields panel, to use the first Heading 1 on the page.
3. I inserted Filler Text, and Expanded that field.
4. I then added a Header 1 paragraph at the top of page 1, saying Chapter 1, and it showed up in all the RH fields.

That was a good first test, and showed they worked.

I then went to page 2, and added a Chapter 2 heading. The RH on page 2  and 3 then said Chapter 2.

Then I went further, and added a Chapter 3 heading on page 3. It would not add as a Header 1. If I typed "Chapter 3", and clicked the paragraph text style field in the Context Toolbar, I could select Header 1, but it immediately reverted to Body.

I added some new pages without the RH text frame, and the Heading 1 text style worked there. I added a new page with an RH field but not from the Master, and Heading 1 worked there.

From this, I surmised that there was some issue related to having an RH field applied from the Master, but I couldn't be sure what exactly it was. And then I found that I could sometimes type text on the earlier pages and get it to switch to Header 1, But sometimes not.

So now I'm quite confused. Has anyone seen something like this before? I've repeated it on iPad and Windows, in 2 or 3 documents now, so if it's my mistake it's one I'm making consistently.

 

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[MikeTO]

I can't duplicate this with your test document on macOS. I positioned the cursor in "Chapter 3" and selected Heading 1 from the Context Bar and Text Styles panel and both worked fine. I tried selecting the paragraph as you did, with and without the paragraph break character, and it worked fine. I tried other paragraphs and other styles but had no issues, everything worked perfectly.

I don't see how this could be a RH issue but one way to find out would be to try to duplicate the issue with the RH fields removed. Then add them back and try again.

Does it happen with other styles?

Does it happen when you use the Text Styles panel?

Does it happen if you click in Chapter 1 rather than selecting Chapter 1?

I've seen a similar issue of being unable to apply a style in another app. Typically this problem is caused when an app gets confused by formatting tags that need to be cleaned up, some apps have deferred clean up jobs. But you had just converted filler text so there shouldn't have been any tags. But just to be sure you could try selecting the latter half of that Chapter 3 paragraph and the first word of the next paragraph and applying Heading 1 to that to see what happens.

[walt.farrell]

1 hour ago, MikeTO said:

I don't see how this could be a RH issue but one way to find out would be to try to duplicate the issue with the RH fields removed. Then add them back and try again.

I did that with added pages, and had inconsistent results. It initially appeared that RH was a problem, but only if applied by a Master Page, and not if applied directly to a page.

1 hour ago, MikeTO said:

Does it happen with other styles?

Inconsistently, it happened also with Heading 2, but did not happen with Drop Caps, and after Drop Caps had worked it then worked (for that text) with Heading 1 and 2.

1 hour ago, MikeTO said:

Does it happen if you click in Chapter 1 rather than selecting Chapter 1?

Good suggestion. I'll try that.

1 hour ago, MikeTO said:

But just to be sure you could try selecting the latter half of that Chapter 3 paragraph and the first word of the next paragraph and applying Heading 1 to that to see what happens.

Another good suggestion. Thanks.