okmike Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I am giving this program another try after my first failed start. But it seems that when I copy text from a Word document that it becomes "no style" with Times Roman and only basic paragraph formatting applied. When I change it to "Body" text which has different parameters, all the words that were italicized in the pasted text becomes normal again. When you are dealing with a nonfiction BOOK it can be a lot of work to go and change every word that needs to be corrected. But if I leave it the way it is pasted there is no hyphenation. It looks like I will have to use it that way. Any suggestions?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 First, just to check: I doubt that you are using Publisher Beta. Probably you're using the retail version, 1.10.5. Can you confirm that, please? If so, a Moderator will probably move this to Affinity on Desktop Questions (macOS and Windows). 14 minutes ago, okmike said: But it seems that when I copy text from a Word document that it becomes "no style" with Times Roman and only basic paragraph formatting applied. If the text in Word had a paragraph style assigned, it should come across with a Copy/Paste action, in my experience. 15 minutes ago, okmike said: When I change it to "Body" text which has different parameters, all the words that were italicized in the pasted text becomes normal again. That would depend on how you "change" it to Body text. If you select the text, then right-click on the Body text style in the Text Styles panel, you'll get a list of actions in the Context menu that is displayed. One of the two that I've circled should do what you want: Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.6.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okmike Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 Thanks, I tried that and the italics remained but other elements like the font was not the same, I don't know why but when I choose body in the drop down menu from above it has a different font from the body that I find in the right-hand column under styles. But I think I found a work-around, I found that if I created a new style from the default no style that appears after a paste that it keeps the formatting. Strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okmike Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 Strange, my first attempt worked but now when I apply the new style it removes the italics. It will be every time consuming to even use the right column since I have to make several clicks to do as you show, every time I select a few paragraphs. There are different formatting, such as footnotes, so I cannot just select an entire chapter. I must select a few paragraphs at a time and do that over and over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 It is odd that the formatting from Word is not carrying over. Have you considered Placing a .docx file rather than using Copy/Paste? If that doesn't resolve it, could you provide a sample .docx file for us to examine? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.6.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okmike Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 I did that on my first attempt at using Affinity, but it puts all the chapters in at the same time as one continuous flow, and one little change in the formatting will disrupt the entire document. You cannot just disconnect two text frames while leaving the text, in both frames, which would be the easy way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, okmike said: You cannot just disconnect two text frames while leaving the text, in both frames No, but you can: 1. insert the cursor at a place where you want to break the flow, then 2. Select all the text following that point with Ctrl (Windows) or Cmd (Mac) + Shift + End, then 3. Edit > Cut, then 4. Break the link between the frames. And finally 5. Edit > Paste the text you cut into the next frame. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.6.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okmike Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share Posted May 11, 2022 Thanks much, I will give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okmike Posted May 12, 2022 Author Share Posted May 12, 2022 My original problem still exists, I just accepted the "no style" 12 point Times New Roman which Affinity created for my body text because I did not want to lose all of the detailed formatting like italics. But I want to solve this so when I copy and paste in the future that I will be able to set the correct formatting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 8 hours ago, okmike said: But I want to solve this Please provide a Word document that has the problem, and tell us which text you are trying to copy/paste. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.6.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okmike Posted May 12, 2022 Author Share Posted May 12, 2022 Ok, here is the Word doc. The Normal text become "no style" that cannot be edited in Affinity, so I must apply a style all over again or accept what it shows. Thanks TheWitnessofTheStars-5-22.docx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 20 minutes ago, okmike said: The Normal text become "no style" that cannot be edited in Affinity, Thanks. When I Open that .docx file in LibreOffice Writer, and copy the beginning of Chapter 4: The Headings come in as Heading 3 paragraph text style. The list below comes in as Left List. The first 2 paragraphs of the chapter text come in as Normal. So, in that sample, all the text came in with the same paragraph text styles as the .docx file had, and all are editable. I'm not sure if you're copying different text than I did, or if Word is doing something different than LibreOffice, or if something else is going on. Sorry. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.6.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okmike Posted May 12, 2022 Author Share Posted May 12, 2022 Here you can see what it is saying: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 I'm not sure where the text cursor is in that screenshot, but the text "The brightest star α (in one of the latter coils), is named Thuban (Heb.), the subtle. Some 4,620 years ago it was the Polar Star." is in "Default Style" according to LibreOffice. In other words, it does not have a text style assigned. I can only suggest two things: Perhaps you should assign a text style, as you have to much of the other text ("Normal"). or If you select some text that shows in Publisher as "No Style" in the Paragraph Text Style dropdown in the Context Toolbar, you can set its characteristics using the Contect Toolbar and the Paragraph panel. You can then use the menu items Edit > Defaults > Synchronize from Selection possibly followed by Edit > Defaults > Save. That should modify the No Style setting for future text you create in that document (Synchronize...) or in future documents (Save). Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.6.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okmike Posted May 12, 2022 Author Share Posted May 12, 2022 Perhaps the cause is that I was not using LibreOffice, but WPS. I will try Libre and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, okmike said: Perhaps the cause is that I was not using LibreOffice, but WPS. I will try Libre and see what happens. Even in LibreOffice, some of your text has styles (the area I showed earlier) and some doesn't (the area you showed just above. Styles can't carry over if you don't use them consistently in the original document. (Though I will admit I'm not an expert at using text styles in Word or LibreOffice ) Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.6.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okmike Posted May 12, 2022 Author Share Posted May 12, 2022 That was the issue, I opened a new document and deleted all styles, the copied a page of text first with WPS and it showed NoStyle NoStyle, then deleted it and copied the same page but from LibreOffice and it showed Normal NoStyle, so I was then able to edit the style. Seems to be an issue between WPS and Affinity. Thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 You're welcome. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.6.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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