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Also we need the ability to switch to picas from the rulers. I realize this beta was probably rushed out and you intended to add these things later but I just thought I would make sure by pointing out that they still need to be added. Thanks!
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Nevermind, the latest beta fixed this . Affinity Suite still needs the ability to change naming and tags from the menu bar though.
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Publisher is the only app that is missing the tags field. Also it would be nice if all Affinity let you change file names and tags from the menu bar like other mac apps.
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On 9/17/2018 at 4:41 AM, AdamW said:
- Fixed application of Kerning by dragging icon on Mac
Can someone explain what this means?
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9 hours ago, segts said:
Hey @KipV. I agree. Picas are needed and it was the first thing that I noted. In the meanwhile, I know it's a pain, but you can work in points and that's a more apples-to-apples conversion until they get this straightened out. And if you put in measurements like "3p6", the app auto converts the measurement for you. Here to hoping for Picas in our future!
Wow, I didn't know Publisher converted 3p6! Interesting, I haven't really been using Publisher much beyond the first week since I don't plan on it getting roughly where I want it to be in the near future. I might use it more in a year depending on much it advances.
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1 hour ago, tjpanda said:
Depends on where one clicks: on one ruler vs intersect of both rulers.
This works with Quark but currently it doesn't appear that you can use units of measurement that way in Publisher. This needs to be done as easily as Quark.
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I wasn't aware of there being different kinds of picas. The important thing to me is to have 12 points per pica. Whatever that is.
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Who is saying we should get rid of the other units of measurement? We are talking about adding one not subtracting.
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Sometimes not using a computer for part of a project makes sense. A computer is just one tool available to you. Analogies don't always work since they are approximations by definition.
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@h_d It's not important that you understand all those different conversions on Wikipedia. Mainly you just need to know that 1 pica is 12 points.
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1 hour ago, MikeW said:
So am I only casually in this field?
How would I know?
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Right, for a house a would use the larger unit of measurement and for a billboard I would use a larger unit of measurement.
If I person is only casually in this field I wouldn't expect them to know details like this but if it's their profession it would be a good thing to learn.
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Mike to go back to my dollar/cents example, you can use the dollar system for listing the price of a mansion or a pair of socks. The fact that one is of a vastly higher quantity doesn't mean that it can't be used. So yes, I could use picas for a letter piece of paper or poster or whatever large item you are designing on. But points (which Affinity currently supports) can become pretty high numbers when designing for a billboard. Yes douglasrthomson, while I have done large scale work (trade show displays) I haven't done it with piacs but I can image there would be a large enough size where that would be useful. It seems like I have done point type that is in the 500 ballpark.
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A lot of the things I have mentioned here are taught in high school level graphic design programs. They are certainly taught in college 101 classes. I took typography/design classes in the early 2000s and just took them this year. They are still hammering this measurement as the one to use in this field.
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19 minutes ago, fde101 said:
The metric world probably doesn't have much use for Picas/Points, so as more of the world turns to metric, the US may have become rather isolated in the continued use of this unit of measurement.
As Serif is based in the UK (I think?), they may well be working with people who are quite experienced in the field, but who are all using metric and thus don't realize the continued importance of this measurement within the US.
But Serif does support points which is a subdivision of picas. It's absurd to just support half of a system. It's like doing all of your finances in cents and doing away with dollars. We still need dollars since buying expensive items would be too difficult if you had to buy your next house or car only using cents. We need both dollars and cents. We need both points and picas.
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In the same way that you get complex fractions when converting inches trying to fit mm or cm into a Picas give you these numbers with long uneven decimal points. Using points gives you a pretty even 12 points per pica.
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13 minutes ago, Oval said:
cm and mm are not compatible with picas. Points are subdivisions of Picas so don't need to deal with the complexity of needing to convert to different systems.
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Here is a good video showing several examples on how the units convert. You can see that points and sometimes Picas are nice even numbers where with inches you need to deal with fractions which makes things unnecessarily complex. Looks like points converts nicely to pixels too but I wonder if 72dpi is still relevant in the age of high res monitors?
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8 hours ago, Patrick Connor said:
Oh my... I really hope that wasn't me (a while back and I've forgotten)
Anyway I have made a request last week for this lack of support to be reconsidered.
It was actually a conversation from Twitter a week ago by whoever runs the Twitter account.
6 hours ago, Fixx said:I guess picas support should be added to please our american friends.
I am not sure what it has to do with being American. It has a lot to do with being a designer though. We measure type in points which is a subdivision of picas so it is easier to measure large objects such as pages, posters, large type, etc. Why measure large objects with an entirely different system like inches, cm, or mm? If type is measured this way why not just carry it across to everything else? It would be possible to use a smaller measurement like points all the time but it starts to get hard the larger something gets. Instead of saying I am going to pay you 100 dollars I could say I will pay you 10,000 cents but nobody says 10,000 cents since we have a financial measurement system that works better for expensive items (dollars.) We still use BOTH dollars and cents because they are needed depending on what type of item you are buying. We also use dollars and cents in unison in the same way we use points and picas in union. Piacs allow us to not need to use outrageously large numbers while points give us a more exact measurement ($4.75, 9p4.)
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I am mostly concerned that Serif doesn't seem to understand the reasoning behind it given that they apparently are made up of people who work in the field. Still not sure if the company is really serious about thinking the measurement is out date or it's just a joke I am not getting?
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Whether or not someone uses the measurement is separate from if it is the most efficient or best way to work. A lot of people shoot video vertically or use the word "literally" incorrectly but I am less concerned about the number of people who do these things then how sound their reasoning is for doing them.
Why did Affinity switch to the wrong typeface?
in Pre-V2 Archive of Affinity on Desktop Questions (macOS and Windows)
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I opened my document up today and Affinity switched the font over to something else entirely. I opened up Font Book next to it so you can see what it should be. It is listed right in the font box but it comes across as something else entirely. How do I fix this?