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Peccavi

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  1. 5 hours ago, beeka said:

    CS3 is fifteen years old and you still seem to be bitter about it: are you saying that if you can't install Affinity V2 in 2037 after spending £90 today that you will feel hard done by?

    I paid good money for CS3 and I can no longer use it. It was not my daily driver nowadays, but check my previous posts, I had to use a software from CS3 which is NOT available in Creative Cloud. If I ever need a software that I bought and the company shuts it down without workarounds  for licence owners I will be bitter about it. I say workaround because Im good with computers, make a registry edit or move files is nothing for me, but plenty of people would prefer an offline activation and not a written how to guide.

    I dont think it is smart to think online or offline (hell, even always online like Denuvo for games) activation will protect any software for long time. Im 100% agains piracy but in my case with Adobe CS3 I have strange feelings. Years ago I made a financial decision to pay a LOT of money to own a licence. Today I feel like if I would have pirated it 1) that money would be in my pocket 2) the pirated copy would still work because it does not need activation.

    Again please DO NOT pirate software!

    Also please make a promise as a company, when V3 launch and V2 is no longer sold in any stores, you make it work 100% offline. We dont want to stuck with V2 if you provide major upgrades, but I still might need to use V2 if I have a project in it... I dont care about backward compatibility, if you only adding features to files (need to store data in that file) the file size will just keep growing, at some point you will be cutting "unnecesary" data from that file which may or may not ruin it for backward compatibility...

  2. 4 hours ago, Patrick Connor said:

    Yes we would do something like this in that unlikely event, but not presently.

    (I'd like to think it has a longer lifetime that a week ;))

     

    I hope it will be supported for a long time. This is the anwser I was looking for.

    I just dont want to get Adobed again with those lazy servers... Protect the software while you support it, but dont punish licence owners.

  3. 38 minutes ago, Patrick Connor said:

    No, not as far as I know. There is monitoring but nothing that will block you in this case. Reinstalling on the same machine counts as one use, so cannot get you in trouble 

    Back to the original question… is there a possibility of offline activation, even if it comes at the end of the lifecycle of the product?

  4. 48 minutes ago, loukash said:

    When was that? The last time I have installed CS5.5 apps (on El Capitan) was likely in 2019. There were a couple of issues because the built-in updaters didn't work anymore, so all patches had to be installed manually (and some of them were only available via archive.org, d'oh!). Other than that, I have all CS5.5 apps running on two MacBooks. But for the record, that's not the CS5.5 suite. I was buying Schmadobe apps and upgrades individually, and in the course of the years, it was a much cheaper upgrade path. it's quite possible that it's less easy to reinstall the monolithic CS suite than individual apps.

    According to the Adobe community forum they shut down the activation servers in 2020. I needed to use flash (old plotting software was written and animated in flash which I had to upgrade to html+js and wanted to check on the original files).

  5. 8 minutes ago, Jimo said:

    Unfortunately you don't truly 'own' it.

    I too would love the security of knowing that I could carry on using the software I pay for in the future, even in the event that Serif should no longer be around. However, I'll repeat what I just posted in another thread:

    Technically, we don't, and have never, 'owned' software - even in the days when we bought it in a box from the store. We are only ever granted a license to use it.

    We're paying for the right to use someone else's software, under certain conditions and terms. Online registrations, dongles and now subscription models are ways the software companies introduced to try ensure we remain complient with those terms and conditions.

    Frequently, when companies talk about a 'lifetime' of usage, they don't mean the lifetime of the person who purchased it - they mean the 'lifetime' of the product. Which is a fairy vague guarantee at best, but tends to end when they stop supporting it and move on to another version.

    I know I only own the right to use it. But with offline activation that cant be revoked after the end of product lifecycle. With online activation I can only use the software while I can connect to that server. Lot of companies give you a chance to activate online, which is easy and with a little bit of workaround you get an offline activation...

    My point is not to literally own the software, I only want to be sure that if I buy it once I will be able to use it even after V3,V4,... release without a server...

  6. 19 hours ago, Artsketch said:

    I still can use my Adobe CS4, CS5 and CS6 apps on my Intel macMini and older MacBook, without subscription. I reinstalled and activated them several times and requested free download links.

    I have the box with all the installation DVDs, still cant use it because they killed the activation server. I have a legal copy, license and no way of using the software.

  7. This is a suggestion, I feel more confortable buying a software that I know I can "own" and no servers are needed to activate.

    I own a legal copy of Adobe CS3 Web Premium, have the box and everything and after I couldnt install it recently contacted Adobe. They shut down the servers, so people with a legal copy cant activate the software... (needed a software which they no longer sell even in subscription)

    Or maybe a promise that we get offline activation at the end of the V2 lifecycle?

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