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I have an ongoing problem with Affinity Designer:

I often make images for website which strips images from color profiles and displays them as if it was opened in for example MS Paint

The problem is that for some reason AD exported images even for simple setups (in this example a flat color) are displayed differently in MS Paint (i will be using paint as an example of unprofiled software) if Icompare it to what  I see in AD. I tried multiple output icc profiles and they do not provide any difference.

The thing is that if I just take a screenshot of affinity and then save it as an image, then it displays everything correctly and colors on screenshot-sourced images are the same with those i see in AD

 

I am attaching an example with three different files:

Image in AD, an exported image, opened in MS Paint, and screenshot of AD, opened in MS Paint

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Settings are default:

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The question is how do i export image (at least as simple as flat color) so that it displays the same way in MS Paint, as it is displayed in AD/profiled software?

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13 minutes ago, Lagarto said:

I think you have a contradiction there. Most browsers use sRGB for images that do not have color profile embedded or tagged, while MS Paint is unmanaged so it uses full color gamut of the display. That means that there is basically no control on how e.g. R255 G0 B0 is shown, while color managed applications like Affinity apps basically always use some default color profile as failback, in case an image with no color profile is opened there, and render the colors according to certain specs.

The thing is that screenshot does exactly result I need: it is correctly (by this i mean exactly the same way it is displayed in AD) displayed everywhere: In browser window directly (where profiles are supported), on the web page (where they are removed from the image, and the image produced by export from AD is different from what i need) and in any software such as Paint, default windows viewer, AD itself.

So since a simple screenshot can provide me with properly colored picture I assume that it should be possible in AD as well

 

Let me repeat: the screenshot, made by a PrtScr button, inserted in Paint and saved as jpeg results in exactly image i see in AD, AND it look the same everywhere else: directly opened in browser, on the website, in Paint and in AD

While image exported from AD displayed correctly only in AD and diretly from the browser (im using Mozilla, they support color profiles), and incorrectly on the website and in Paint

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22 minutes ago, Lagarto said:

If you want to show your raw monitor colors you must embed the monitor color profile and not the sRGB color profile (as in your screenshot). The easiest method to achieve that is create your Designer document in RGB mode and use your monitor color profile. You must color manage your images to get predictability.

I understand the importance of color management profiles, but the problem is in fact that website, that I am making it for strips images of profile when uploaded, and as result they are displayed incorrectly. This is not present when for example you draw something in Paint and upload it to the samewebsite

 

 

I found out that using my display icm profile (which I earlier downloaded) as export profile (no changes done to document profile) produces almost identical output picture (with minor RGB) in every described earlier situation

Using Display P3 (I'm not sure what exactly is this for) produces also close good result, but is darker on photo shadows

I' not yet sure if its correct for all situations, but it did work this time

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