LastPixelBorn

@Patrick Connor Thanks for clearing things up, in the end, I decided to buy Affinity Photo and to join this club (without future posts, I don't like forums) :). Btw. I just tried to help with information from the customer side, I know this topic is old but the problem still exists, so I don't think you should consider app store issue resolved. Lot's of people are not from the USA and for example, I paid 70 USD for something that other people pay $50. Offcourse if customers like me have the direct option we could buy it directly for 50. It is not about money, it just I don't know, maybe to show customers that you are trying to treat everybody equally no mether where they are. Here are some pros and cons for using Apple store (personally I like to use it for smaller apps, I even bought Affinity Photo for Ipad Pro). - Lot's of my friends are from the same area like me and they registered their Apple accounts with a location in the USA, so covering taxes correctly does not really work with that system. - And there is one more flaw with using strictly Apple store, for example, if any user decides to change store location or to create a new Apple account in the future, I believe your software licence will be locked with the previous country/location or account in the Apple store. But if you provide people with licence key they won't be so depended on Apple account.

@Oval don't play games, of course I know your message is old. The name of this topic is "Get Affinity Designer without App Store?", so I explained some issues here regarding payment and Apple store, if Serif is different than Adobe they will hear it and DO something about it. Also, I felt that someone needs to say these things public, I said that I did research and it seems to me they have the same attitude as Adobe. At the end the only reason why I mentioned you is that this is Serif forum and you talk with possible customers here, that is the fact. I did not really plan to explain anything to you, the message is mainly intended for people from Serif. "So please, use your mind." "… on Mars or a Jupiter’s moon?" Without knowing details and you surely don't ask for it, you allow yourself to make conclusions and insult others. Regarding versions issue, this is the c&p answer that I got from Serif support recently. This is why I felt in the first place that they have the same attitude as Adobe. "MAR 8TH, 1:25PM You need to buy a separate Windows version to install on Windows or a Mac version to install on the Mac. Each version is purchased independently and each has its own licenses. It would not be possible to swap from one to the other." And this is the proper answer, "They have maintained feature parity between the Mac & Windows versions to the extent possible, & (unlike Adobe & many other software developers) have done so by using native OS APIs wherever possible to keep memory use to a minimum, minimize conflicts with other software, & boost performance, among other things. That makes developing the separate versions more expensive. That is built into the pricing structure, which is quite reasonable even if you need both versions. Those that do not need both do not have to pay extra for that -- if they did they would in effect be subsidizing users that do. That seems more than reasonable to me, much more so than Adobe's pay forever subscription model." Tnx @R C-R

@oval That is a really insensitive thing to say to a future customer. For example, I decided to research for different options than Adobe, one of the ideas was to switch from Adobe Suite to Affinity Photo. The main reason why I decided to cancel cooperation with Adobe is that same attitude that you showed here. For example, they act like bullies, in last 1.5 years, I paid to Adobe more than 350 Euro for subscriptions. On the other hand with Affinity, I was first disappointed when I found out that I can't use the same licence for both of my computers, one is PC and other is MAC. In other words, they force me to buy 2 same licenses just to be able to use it on desktop and MacBook Pro computer. For example, when the need is, I can run Adobe, Clip studio and Autodesk software on both platforms with the same license. The second problem is forcing people to buy software via Apple store, that is something that you obviously do not understand or you are not familiar. Price on the website is 50 Dollars or 47 Euro. And since I am registered in the Croation store I am forced to pay 57.85 Euro or 71.47 US Dollars for the same software that I could buy with my VISA card directly for 50 Dollars. And guess what I don't even live in Croatia, so don't mention my tax and stuff. Lots of people DO NOT have stores in their countries so they use closest countries to register in Adobe store. With the direct purchase, both parties would avoid that type of problems. "So, buy it or not." These words make me change my mind. I don't feel that Serif is a much different company that Adobe at this moment, so in the end, I decided to keep Adobe subscription for a while. One more thing, do not expect that people will switch Apple stores just like that. I bought apps for more than 200 euros with Croatian account, so switching countries for just one software is not the option.