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Hi MEB, I get just about all of that... but I'm not clear on what the difference of having a layer dragged inside another layer versus "nesting" a layer within a layer. I'll rewatch the clipping/masking video also to see if that clears up the difference.

Hi MEB, Ok, I get that... didn't know you could do that. cool :) and thanks! I've just got 2 more questions related to this. 1. I see you can copy/paste fx and "styles". Can you create and/or import and save your own "styles" to be reused? I didn't see anything about that in the in-app manual. 2. When you move a layer object onto another layer object, you either get a line above, line below, a line in the middle, or the whole layer icon turns solid blue. I get that the line above/below is whether the layer object is above or below the current layer you're hoving over, but I don't see any difference between dropping a layer object on another layer with the line in the middle vs the layer icon turning solid blue. What is the difference?

Photo iPad... am I not in the right forum section? I made the post in the iPad section and it was there originally.

I don't completely understand this. If you paste an object on a layer, how is that different from basically copying/pasting from one layer to another? I don't get why "paste into" term would be used. Could you please describe how this would work? ie. is an "object" something like a logo graphic you might have imported in? How is "paste into" different from just copying to pasteboard, then pasting the copied item?

I already asked about this before version 1.6.2 and was told it wasn't possible yet, but would be added to the requested feature list. Now, I see in the updated v1.6.2 that the paste menu has "paste into". I don't recall if it was there before. However, I just tried it and I can't get it to work. I make a selection, then copy selection to pasteboard. Then I make another selection, and then select "paste into", but the copied selection just pastes to the same location what I'd copied it from... not "pasted into" the new selection. Does this not actually work yet? Or, am I doing something wrong? Or, if this "paste into" feature for something else entirely?

I just noticed you have many more iPad videos on your Vimeo channel, beyond the in-app ones. Would be cool if I could scroll and see the new ones inside the app so it's easier to keep track of which one's you've already seen. Awesome that there's more. Thx! :)

After the 1.6.2 it fixed the problem with not returned your storage space after deleteing projects. I'm still getting a crash and freeze, but it seems like it's significantly improved. And MOST importantly... when I crash now, Affinity Photo is saving where I left off. So, a solid 4-star app now... getting closer still! :)

More of the excellent in-app tutorial videos please.

Oh. Ok... hope it makes it into the app soon. A side note... I didn't leave a favorable review for Affinity Photo iPad initially. Perhaps my expectations for general stability were too high for a brand new iPad app. But, it was at the end of a very aggravating afternoon after purchasing it. I've since decided that my original review was too harsh and have edited and upgraded it. I can't in good conscience give it a raving review quite yet, but it's future looks very promising and I'm excited to see where this goes. I don't regret buying it now in its current build either. It'll give me time to get to know more about what's under the hood. The few days I've spent with it have already got me more in-sync with the desktop app. The iPad app is really fun to use overall, and for me... even more pleasurable than the desktop version. My primary hope was that Affinity Photo iPad would be fun to use and inspire me to move away from my Photoshop history, and completely onto the Affinity platform. So far, it looks like that objective will be met. :)

I posted this question yesterday afternoon and it was there all day an until last night without answer. This morning it was gone. Why? The question is, after you make a selection in one image, then copy the selected area to the pasteboard, then back out of that image and open a new image, how do you paste the copied selection into a new selection? Not just paste onto a layer but into a selection? I know the tutorial shows how to add an image to a selection (in the sky replacement video) but how do you place a copied selection into a new selection?

Just did another test. This time I didn't use any 360vr stills or RAW files. ONLY jpeg images. My API footprint prior to loading images was 1.29GB. I loaded 4 of the 6.6MB 5472 × 3648 jpeg images into API. I did edits on all of them and 2 of them had 2-3 layers added. These weren't 16bit raw files, but best quality jpegs. My API footprint jumped from 1.29GB to a whopping 2.62GB. Not as bad as the 6GB bloat, but still very significant increase. I then deleted all of the project files and relaunched the app, then also restarted. The app still has almost 500MB of data beyond the app's 1.29GB footprint. So, there's definitely a problem here. And although editing RAW is possible... I don't think I'd want to suffer the aggravation and giant file sizes until there are API updates to iron out the bugs, and probably only if you've got a Pro iPad with LOTS of extra storage available. Will likely be ok for me to not store images on the ipad. I'll use an external RAVPower wifi storage device I have, bring in just the files I want to work on, export a flattened jpg to my camera roll, then save a copy of the edit file to my external storage or cloud storage if I have the bandwidth. However, I was not able to select my Affinity Photo Folder save out an .afphoto "Save a Copy" file to my iCloud drive. The Affinity folder is greyed out, as well as the other folders except for Goodreader. I was able to save in the iCloud Goodreader folder, but my attempts to save to just the iCloud drive root level, did end up saving the files and placing them into the Affinity folder. One of my 1.9MB files, saved as "Save a Copy" with no editing on it at all, ballooned up to 12MB. Another edit file with layers saved out to .afphoto format to a whopping 270MB file size. Though, the PSD version of the same file came down to 85MB. I think I'm done testing all of this. It's useable, but an iPad Air2 is just barely going to cut it. And much more extra storage space is going to be imperative. And a Pro iPad is going to be the only pleasant way to use this app unless the next update or two dials this in to be more efficient. Got 2 crashes in this testing. One was after spending nearly half and hour doing an intricate selection of one image to paste into another. The app crashed and didn't even save the unedited file I'd loaded in. It looks like you need to actually back out of the edit mode, let the app do it's autosave, then go back into editing mode if you want to preserve the image when there's a crash. I'd just loaded the image and got right to editing without backing out of edit mode first. Evidently merely loading an image doesn't save it automatically until you actually back out first. I bet some of these issues have a lot to do with the current iOS10.3.2 and iCloud Drive not really being that swell either. Maybe after iOS11 drops, this will all be much better. I'm going to put this on the backburner for now and wait for the next update. I also loved all of the in-app tutorial videos. Hope there's more coming. Very helpful, clear, relevant, and to the point.

Hi, I see that I can make a selection in one rasterized image, copy to pasteboard, then paste that selection into a second image after backing out of one image and loaded the second. But, is it possible to paste into selection? I can see via the tutorial that you can place an image into a selection, but I can't see how you can place a pasted selection, into another selection.

First of all, at this point I'm not bring critical of the app. Affinity Photo iPad does pretty much everything I need/want it to do and more. I might even go as far to say I find it potentially even more enjoyable to use than the desktop version. When the occasional freezes/crashes are cleared up, and the storage space issues fixed, this has potential to be everything I've been looking for in an iPad photo editing solution... where I don't have to do a quicky edit in Snapseed, only to have to start over from scratch at the desktop when I return from the road. So, my questions at this point are more "just the facts" about how viable this will be. To be honest, I'm not quite the RAW evangelist that some seem to be. For 90% of what I'll do, I don't think I'd even bother with RAW files at all. I shoot RAW+high quality jpegs. And most of the time the jpegs are just fine IMO. I only use the RAW files if there's critical highlight/shadow data that got tossed in the compression. I'm also asking these questions not so much critically about Affinity Photo iPad, but more in terms regarding what hardware I'm going to have to get, and travel workflow. Most of the time I don't have fast wifi internet connections from the road, especially in 3rd world countries. Using cloud storage isn't going to be feasible. I do have external wifi storage devices I can use, but that gets very tedious very quickly. Let's say I'm using the highest quality jpeg image from a higher end compact "all in one" camera. Something modest like the Panasonic FZ1000 referenced in my storage issue details. "File size 5472 × 3648 at 6.6MB - Color profile of source image Adobe RGB (1998)" And, let's say I'm only using these files for my edits, and just keeping the RAW versions saved in case I need that little bit of extra data. If I just stick to using only the highest quality jpegs as source images on 2-3 multiple layers ALSO yield bloated native .afphoto edit files in the several hundred megabyte range?

TonyB, here's my main concern at the moment regarding this. Let's say you're using an iPad Air2 with 12GB of free space left on it. And lets say you want to work on a dozen RAW images with a 2-3 layers each and various edits. With your calculations... 12GB would likely be completely eaten up. Correct? And lets say that you only work on 2-3 RAW images at at time with 2-3 layers each, then export those native Affinity files out to external cloud storage like Dropbox. Are you saying I'd be constantly uploading native edit files for storage that are several hundred MB each?! I typically shoot thousands of images while traveling, and have edited several hundred from the road using mostly Snapseed. I'd like to begin using Affinity Photo and save my edit file for further adjustments later on the desktop if needed, but if I'm reading your reply correctly, that's simply not going to be feasible without massive amounts of storage space and/or uploading very large files weighing in the hundreds of MB for each file to cloud services. Do I understand you correctly?

Hello TonyB, All of what I was doing was trying out several of the API (Affinity Photo iPad) features on 3 different types of file. I'll try to recall most of what I did. All images used whatever the default color format is. I didn't change that for any of them. 1. First file was a RAW image from a compact Olympus TG-4. This most mostly standard highlight/shadow and color correction, but I also did a lot of cloning and inpainting. I straightened the image which left transparent areas about the corners. I painted these back in using the inpainting brunsh on a separate pixel layer... so, 2 layers. File size 3456 × 4608 at 16.1MB - Color Profile of RAW file "Display P3" 2. Second image was a jpeg image from a Panasonic FZ1000. All I did with this one was add a second layer, duplicated the image to the second layer to try out the layer effects. I adjusted color, levels, bright/dark, and I might've tried a tone map on it too. File size 5472 × 3648 at 6.6MB - Color profile of source image Adobe RGB (1998) 3. Third image test was using a jpeg from an Insta360 Nano VR camera. It's native file format .insp isn't supported, so I exported that out of the insta360studio desktop application to a jpeg file. I imported this file into API to try out the 360 projection feature and applied various photo filters to it, before backing it out of projection mode. File size 3040 × 1520 at 1.9MB - Color Space RGB After I saw the near 6GB bloat, that remained even after a restart of the iPad, I deleted all 3 project files which didn't return the bloated storage hit. I then deleted and reinstalled API to get the footprint back down to 1.29GB. I then tried just the one FZ1000 jpeg file that's only 6.6MB. I did a tone map and a few level, sharpness adjustments. That took my 1.29GB footprint up to 1.39GB without doing anything else. After I deleted the file and nothing in API, and restarted... the footprint was still 1.39GB, ie. it didn't return my unused storage space. Something else I found... is that I tried to export a jpeg file to my camera roll after reducing it's size to 1800px on the long side. It wouldn't ever save. The "meta data analysis" would never complete, and thus would never save. I tried not reducing the size and that wouldn't save/export either. The ONLY thing that works, is if I turn off the "embed metadata" feature. If I don't, it perpetually reads "Generating Report" without ever completing and saving. I just tried again after typing this, and it appears to save fine if the source image is a jpeg. It only has the Embed Metadata problem is my source image is a RAW image.

Hey, I'm not having a trouble-free experience on an Air 2. It'll be fine for several edits, then freeze up or crash. Doesn't seem to save where you were at when it freezes or crashes. Also having an issue that it doesn't return storage space claimed after deleting a project. That being said, after the kinks are worked out, it's fairly impressive. Looks like about 85% of the desktop features made it into the iPad app. And, they're the most useful features too. I wouldn't use it on a paying gig right now on an Air 2, or if you're in a hurry. But fingers crossed Serif tightens this up enough for solid Air 2 use. At present, not quite there I'm afraid.

I already asked this question in my other ipad questions thread but haven't got an answer. Is this forum not the appropriate place to get tech support on this product? Seems most other questions are getting answered, but the only reply I've gotten to any of my questions was to watch the tutorial videos. Well, I've now watched all of them and have not got my Affinity Photo iPad questions answered. Look, although I'm fairly disappointed at how much this new app is freezing up and crashing... I'm also very excited about it. It appears to be able to do everything I'd hoped it could do. And, I know I'll have to cut it some slack since it's just now been released. I do think it should've been a lot more stable before it went live and Serif was charging for it. It's not a "budget" app and I expected it'd be fairly solid out of the gate. Maybe it was rushed to market to make that Apple Event. Somewhat understandable I suppose, but that doesn't take away from the aggravation of actually trying to use it. That being said, my main concern is about the fact the app doesn't appear to be freeing storage back up after it's been claimed. As mentioned before, it's footprint crept up to 6GB with only 3 low-medium resolution images I was editing. And after I deleted those edit files altogether, Affinity Photo iPad didn't give me the storage space back. I had to delete Affinity Photo iPad, and reinstall to get the footprint back down to 1.29GB. Is this a known problem? Once I start actually trying to use this for real edits, I could easily have a couple dozen project files. At this rate it'd eat of every bit of the 12GB of free space I have currently. I plan on going up to at least the 256GB iPad pro, or possibly the 512Gb, but these work files shouldn't be taking up hundreds of megs of space just for simple edits on 4-11mb source files. I thought maybe this app wasn't really even compatible with an Air 2 as is claimed in the description, but I've read some with iPad Pros reporting issues as well. Are these problems that will likely go away with iOS11? Or, and upgrade to the latest iPad Pros? I plan on upgrading, but I was hoping to wait until iOS11 is released. I've read that much of the new power of the iPad Pros won't really be fully realized until iOS11 drops anyway. So, if this is a known problem... will I be able to use Affinity Photo iPad on an iPad Air 2 in the foreseeable future, on full resolution RAW files, without the app freezing up, crashing, and filling up all of my available storage space? If this is not a known problem, can the Serif support team make any suggestions or advise as to how I might be able to actually use this current build reliably on an Air 2? And, if this is not the appropriate place to ask for product tech support, please tell me where these questions should be directed. Thanks in advance.

I'm really hoping that this is the holy grail for iPad photo editing... I'm guessing it's so buggy because it's still got loads of wrinkles to iron out. One thing I don't get about the space this is taking up. After I install, the Apple storage setting shows it's taking up 1.29GB of space. After I open a low-res jpeg image, make 4 or 5 edits, then recheck the storage... that 1.29GB jumps up to 1.39GB. That's 100MB increase in storage from making 4-5 edits on a 4MB file. How can that be? Over the weekend, I tried editing 3 images, running through all the various features, etc. And my storage for Affinity Photo jumped up to 6GB. Even after I delete the source images from Affinity Photo, the storage doesn't come back down to 1.29MB, even with everything deleted, it's still taking up the storage space. The only way I can get it back down to 1.29GB is if I delete Affinity and reinstall.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to completely backpedal on my impression of Affinity Photo iPad. I thought everything was ok after a couple of hard resets and a reinstall... but I've spent the day battling with this app. Multiple freezes, crashes, etc. I've only got through one complete image edit. And, I've only tried to edit 3 different images. One was a 360VR image, one was a RAW image from an Olympus compact. The third was an 11mb jpeg from a Pansonic FZ1000. None of these are huge files, yet for some reason, the 1.2GB that Affinity Photo ipad was taking has ballooned to over 6GB already. WTF?!!! I tried deleting everything I'd worked on but didn't get my storage back. The only thing that worked was deleting Affinity Photo iPad and reinstalling after yet another hard reset. I'm giving up on this app for now. Maybe it's better on an iPad Pro, but on an iPad Air 2, this it's the most disappointing app purchase I've made in recent years. No way I can use this for anything in it's current form. It looks like it has potential, but I'm going to forget about it until it's matured more. This looks like they rushed it to release for the Apple Event and it wasn't anywhere near ready to come out of beta. Sure hope Serif knows how to make this horror show into something worthwhile eventually. As it stands, I just wasted $20 and a boat load of time in an aggravating attempt to get this sad excuse for an image editing app to even do some of the most basic editing and saving.

Ok, well... I took a gamble and went ahead and bought this. So far, on an Air 2... this seems like it was rushed to release for the Apple event and wasn't quite ready for primetime. I can't even get through the interactive walk-thru without it freezing up. I've tried to edit an image with the healing brush and inpaintinng, but it doesn't do anything to my image. Many of the filters don't respond. I restarted and tried again, inpainting was working, but then crashed without saving. Some filters started working too, but also ended up crashing with only a few parameter changes. I don't regret buying it yet. It looks like it's a powerful piece of software that will eventually be what I was looking for. But, it looks like it was far too early to come out of the Beta-testing oven. Fingers crossed the Affinity iPad team can get this up and stable where I could actually use it for something soon. Right now, there's no way I could rely on it for even basic work. UPDATE: I've been really excited about this new app but was so disappointed with my first foray after initial installation, so I deleted... reinstalled... then held down power button, then press home button for RAM reset. Then, I did 2 full-hard resets, ie. holding power and home button continuously until black screen and not launching. Then, I relaunched Affinity Photo iPad and tried the introductory walk-through again. This time it launched like it appears it was supposed to. Made it through the interactive intro without any issues at all. After that, I did a test image edit, full-res but not RAW yet. All of the filters now work fine. Everything I've tried so far works fine. It's even snappier that my initial install. I've found my old Adonit plain Dot Pro stylus is all I really need for the finer stuff. Nothing crashed. No freeze-ups. Now, although it might still be too early to tell... the impression is that it's stable and completely usable for an actual pro edit session. Thrilled!!! :D

@Horst thank you! That's what I was afraid of. Maybe not mature enough yet. Not a criticism, as it only just now released... but maybe it's not quite ready for regular workflow using the desktop. I'll certain buy it, but at least I know that maybe I can't count on it to replace a laptop install just yet.

Hmmm... kind of odd. I asked these questions in the Affinity iPad thread, but they've been ignored. I thought maybe since it's more of an "announcement" thread, I'd look for an iPad questions thread (like this one). Still no answers. Then I thought it might be the time difference, but it appears staff are answering other questions. Is there something unreasonable about these questions? None of them are any sort of critique or anything. Just questions about the app that I didn't see answered in the tutorial videos.

1. Just have a few questions, I currently have an iPad Air 2 and won't upgrade to the Pro right away (likely toward the end of Summer I expect). So, the videos and demos done using the iPad Pro look like impressive performance to me. Will the performance on my current iPad Air 2 be very disappointing/sluggish by comparison? 2. What would also be cool, is if you could somehow use your iPad Affinity linked wirelessly with the desktop Affinity, in concert with each other to get the benefit of touch control with the use of a larger, calibrated screen. Anything like that coming? 3. I know you can export .afphoto projects and pick up where you left via desktop Affinity, but can you go the other way too? ie. if I start an editing file with multiple edits, fx, and layers using desktop Affinity.. then export out as .afphoto... can I then import that file into Affinity Photo iPad with all of my layers, fx, edits still intact and pick up where I left off on the desktop? 4. Watched a couple of the videos and see AP iPad does include the 360VR still editing feature. Is this the very same set of 360VR features as in the desktop version? 5. In the share option for exporting, is AirDrop supported? Or, is there another direct way to go straight from the iPad export and into desktop AP? Or, do you need to save somewhere first and then open separately in AP after you've saved?

Ok, yeah... the video is nice and all that, but can someone from Serif answer my Affinity Photo iPad questions in my previous posting? Yes, I watched the appropriate videos as you originally brushed me off to do, and my questions aren't answered there. Or, if this is the wrong thread for questions about the Affinity Photo iPad app, please let me know where they should be directed. Thanks. 1. Just have a few questions, I currently have an iPad Air 2 and won't upgrade to the Pro right away (likely toward the end of Summer I expect). So, the videos and demos done using the iPad Pro look like impressive performance to me. Will the performance on my current iPad Air 2 be very disappointing/sluggish by comparison? 2. What would also be cool, is if you could somehow use your iPad Affinity linked wirelessly with the desktop Affinity, in concert with each other to get the benefit of touch control with the use of a larger, calibrated screen. Anything like that coming? 3. I know you can export .afphoto projects and pick up where you left via desktop Affinity, but can you go the other way too? ie. if I start an editing file with multiple edits, fx, and layers using desktop Affinity.. then export out as .afphoto... can I then import that file into Affinity Photo iPad with all of my layers, fx, edits still intact and pick up where I left off on the desktop? 4. Watched a couple of the videos and see AP iPad does include the 360VR still editing feature. Is this the very same set of 360VR features as in the desktop version? 5. In the share option for exporting, is AirDrop supported? Or, is there another direct way to go straight from the iPad export and into desktop AP? Or, do you need to save somewhere first and then open separately in AP after you've saved?

So, I no longer need to be "sold" on this... just waiting for an iTunes card deal. ;) I didn't know the image stacking stuff was brought over to the iPad version too. Splendid! I'd say to date, 95% of my image editing on the iPad has been for web delivery only. For anything related to prints or printed publishing, I always waited until I got back to the desktop. Always seemed redundant too, and have always wanted to edit ONLY on the iPad and be done with it. Looks like that might actually be possible now with Affinity Photo for iPad. Just have a few questions, I currently have an iPad Air 2 and won't upgrade to the Pro right away (likely toward the end of Summer I expect). So, the videos and demos done using the iPad Pro look like impressive performance to me. Will the performance on my current iPad Air 2 be very disappointing/sluggish by comparison? What would also be cool, is if you could somehow use your iPad Affinity linked wirelessly with the desktop Affinity, in concert with each other to get the benefit of touch control with the use of a larger, calibrated screen. Anything like that coming? I also asked a question that hasn't been answered yet regarding the roundtrip .afphoto files. I know you can export .afphoto projects and pick up where you left via desktop Affinity, but can you go the other way too? ie. if I start an editing file with multiple edits, fx, and layers using desktop Affinity.. then export out as .afphoto... can I then import that file into Affinity Photo iPad with all of my layers, fx, edits still intact and pick up where I left off on the desktop? Watched a couple of the videos and see AP iPad does include the 360VR still editing feature. Is this the very same as in the desktop version? In the share option for exporting, is AirDrop supported? Or, is there a direct way to go straight from the iPad export and into desktop AP? Or, do you need to save somewhere first and then open separately in AP after you've saved?