William Overington

No. I am always straight and honest. Some of my ideas make progress, some do not. Telesoftware did. But that was long ago, when I was young.

And sometimes people would like something to progress but do not say so for one or more reasons. The process of getting something implemented is not always a linear process. Sometimes the process can be modelled using a cusp manifold. So I am trying to encourage enthusiasm to get something achieved. Yes, I may get ridiculed. So it looks like going backwards. Yet the stage is being set for progress if the operating point goes over the edge of the manifold as a result of people considering what I write. Yes, some people will push back, even ridicule me, but that falls away because some people may, just may, read what I write and what I write be the catalyst for making progress.

It is Friday afternoon again. The thread has 40 replies and 1.1k views. So hopefully there will be enthusiasm for, and some progress towards, implementing Indian languages in Affinity products.

Well, yes, everything else is off-topic. If the posts are helpful to people then they could be regarded as not superfluous, being useful to the members of the community who are reading this thread. But they are off-topic. As will be any post telling me off for saying so. I looked at this thread because of its title so I expected it to be about the topic stated in the title, yet it appears to be a thread that is a spin-off from some other thread.

The topic of the thread is stated in the title of the thread.

@JpLaf Thinking about this and some of the comments above, would it be worth loading the Affinity software onto a different computer?

It seemed to me to be a logical thing to ask as a member of Serif staff had joined the discussion. It is a topic of great importance to some participants in this forum. No, sometimes maybe, but not always, not in most cases. Actually, no. It is just the way I am. The way I think. Linking ideas across traditional boundaries. Spotting patterns. Yes, I know, I know what that implies and it is probably the situation.

Possibly.

A pile on when someone has a problem over something like earning salary is not nice.

i have now got the light grey user interface on Affinity Publisher, Affinity Designer, and Affinity Photo. Thank you. William

I have just installed Affinity Publisher version 1 on my new computer How do I get the light grey user interface please?

How many people is that please? Are any working on developing Indic language support, even just for part of each week please?

Does it need to be programmed? Is it a matter of writing and publishing an article, in, say, a PDF document, suggesting a custom and practice, and it being published in the Resources section and in the Share your work section, and sending a copy as an email attachment to each known brush producer that asks them to consider using that convention. There are various possible conventions. Here are two, not mutually exclusive as they could both be used, even together if so desired. Label raster brushes with a name starting with R_ For example, R_Tree_leaves_Pine and R_Tree_leaves_Horse_Chestnut and label vector brushes with a name starting with V_ For example, V_Cumulus_clouds List brushes in documentation with (R) or (V) after the name with a space betweenn name and either of (R) and (V). Or have I misunderstood the issue posed?

Please don't. I genuinely hope that my posts will have a positive effect in getting Indic script support implemented in Affinity software.

I remember the early 2000s. I was out of work after redundancy a few years earlier and I was trying to find a way to go forward. Then there was Softy to make fonts for a £15 shareware fee, then Serif brought out PagePlus 9 which could produce a PDF document and was at a budget price and then there was High Logic Font Creator (later renamed FontCreator) at a budget price. So I could move forward. Some years later I remember Serif asked in the then forum for suggestions for the then future PagePlus X3. I and someone else suggested adding OpenType features. Well, PagePlus X3 came out and no OpenType features, just additions which, if I remember correctly, were of no interest to me. Yet some years later PagePlus X5 came out with superb OpenType facilities. So, had the suggestions of adding OpenType features made by me and the other person been taken on board and been looked into and then taken up and that is why PagePlus X5 had OpenType features, or not, they arriving by some entirely separate route? I don't know and may never know. Likewise, if at some future time Serif does implement Indic language support in Affinity software, will their decision to do so be in any way as a result of this thread existing now? Maybe, maybe not, I shall probably never know. But what if earlier this afternoon as a result of this thread existing some of the Serif team got chatting about the possibility of having a go at implementing Indic language support and what if some were keen and are now allowed to work on it on Friday afternoons? This thread being a catalyst for a discussion to start. Maybe, maybe not, some people at Serif will know, i doubt if I ever will. But, hey ho, that's fine.

But does the text engine need redesigning or is it a matter of adding an extra buffer area for use if and only if the text to be displayed contains at least one Indic character, so as to handle those situations where the display order of the characters is not the same as the logical order in which the characters are stored in text? I am wondering if what is needed is a minimal constructed script, an abugida with an inherent a and a virama and so on that thereby has all the features that need to be handled. A sort of work of art such that if the minimal constructed script can be handled then the rest can be handled. A sort of pure mathematics approach of starting with an almost trivial case, prove that works, then gradually build up.

So, how many languages?

Prynhawn da. Good afternoon. These two languages from Great Britain are supported by Affinity products. Prynhawn dydd Gwener, Friday afternoon. So hopefully this afternoon people will discuss the possibility of implementing support for Indic languages in Affinity products.

Paint is very good, but I think that my artwork could not have been produced using Paint, as my artwork was produced using Affinity Designer using the precision positioning of objects using numbers that Affinity Designer provides in its Transform panel.

For me it would depend on who the typewritten message was from and what it said,

If this Share your work forum is to be that there is a very high standard required or whatever is posted will be rubbished by one or more people then that may well deter people posting what they have produced. I consider that a culture of finding something good to say about what is posted is best.

Yes, just at that level. Just to get a bit of an understanding of the differences that occur. But I am not trying to do that. Just some qualitative tests to get a bit more of a personal understanding of what happens. Well I have. The results are amazing. Some are published in Alfred's forum.

Well, today is Friday, after lunch it is Friday afternoon. Maybe some members of the Affinity team might discuss the possibility of moving forward on implementing Indic language support in Affinity programs. That would be good. If so, this thread will have had some benefit.

As far as I am aware at the present time, the issues of providing Right-to-Left support are not involved here.

The colour-filled rectangles, one added using the Affinity Designer Rectangle Tool then copied and pasted and placed using numerical values in the Transform panel so as to produce the display, were added so that upon purchasing a print of each I could compare how a colour appears on a screen with how it appears in a hardcopy print. I purchased A5 size giclée prints, printed from A5 size artwork png files exported from Affinity Designer.