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4 hours ago, Amnesiac said:
It's a lovely idea but I don't think it washes. Adobe was adopted by professionals who did pay the higher licence fee and didn't pirate thus allowing Adobe to invest further in features that professionals wanted. Yes it was easier to pirate (and I'm sure it's possible to pirate Adobe now) but making it the professional tool of choice was what they were interested in and removing any competition in that space. Being only on the Mac platform in the late 80s (getting acquired by Adobe in 1990) when Mac was the creative community platform of choice helped that too. The Windows version arrived in '92. There are tools from even higher end markets like the medium format cameras that did similar; ie go for a smaller high margin market. The fact that we're talking a Photoshop and not Lightroom replacement in these threads indicates the Adobe professional focus and why they were successful I think.
I'd also note that Adobe tried to reduce piracy throughout the lifetime of their products. I think they just won the arms race. I might concede that they went subscription when they thought they'd got piracy beat but not the argument that they deliberately allowed it. Professionals will pay for the tools of their trade as I've mentioned before if you have a business need then you'll go buy an IOS tablet if you have a need for a tablet based business tool or the Windows version on a Surface or similar.
As to the numbers of each platform, IOS vs Android I think the addressable market is more important than the total numbers when deciding if/when to invest. I don't think Affinity think the addressable Android market is there yet, and if they think to address the market we won't know until they decide to release the product (though I'm sure if you want to stalk job openings you might be able to see if they start hiring Android devs).
Yes and no. In the past, their anti-piracy was trivial, and honestly, it made me stick to their software for years. And I know I am not the only one. As soon as I started designing ads for a living, I bought the license and paid the monthly fee. Their software was trivial to pirate in the past - which is not the primary reason it is the Design Suite of choice nowadays - but it certainly didn't hurt them much.
Honestly, there is a bit of a chicken and, e.g. problem on Android. There aren't many exceptional design apps on the platform; however, Samsung is making more exceptional hardware for designing/drawing/etc. At the moment, I am using Infinite Painter and Design on my Tab S9, which are fine. Not great, just fine. Krita does the job but is primarily a simple desktop port and doesn't have an excellent UI for tablets. Which means I don't use it. There are a few more apps. But most of these are ad-supported garbage or straight garbage. When you look at the Adobe forums, there are hundreds of posts, each with hundreds of replies requesting Android versions of the iPad apps. There is quite a bit of demand for it. Because, at best, only 1% of potential users will actively request something from a developer.
I don't blame Serif for not creating Android apps yet (hopefully). The business/team isn't close to the size of Adobe's. However, I blame Adobe for not leaving their earlier drawing apps on Android. Their actions, in this case, told their Android users to piss off by just deleting their existing apps. It's one of the reasons I started looking elsewhere for my design needs.
I won't switch back to iPads because I'm not particularly eager to work with iPad OS and its overpriced ecosystem. Samsung hardware is not cheap, but it's more feature-complete right out of the box.
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I agree on Infinite Painter and Design. It seems like the best option while Affinity isn't there on Android. I am still dialing in my post Adobe workflow. But I am getting there. And I am not going to get an iPad as I dislike i(Pad)OS very much. So my Tab S9 has replaced my iPad about 6 months ago and I love the freedom Android provides over the closed iOS garden. And honestly it's really sad that Serif doesnt have its apps on Android.
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LOL, if Piracy is an argument, no software company should be able to exist.
You can trivially pirate Affinity on MacOS, Windows, and iPadOS (admittedly, that last one is quite a bit harder). So, if I don't want to pay for Affinity, I won't do the same for anyone who knows how to pirate stuff.
Now, on to another secret. Do you know why Adobe Suite has become the most used creativity suite? Up until Adobe Photoshop CS6, Photoshop was trivial to pirate. It schooled millions of users on pirated software. Then, it was time to crack down, and Adobe did; pirated software users were locked into the workflow, and Adobe grew. Piracy isn't bad if you give people who know how to do it a good and affordable way to get out of it...
Back to the main topic... Most people don't know how to sideload cracked APKs on their Android phones. It's even a more minor problem than on MacOS because it is harder to do so. The user base, however, is unimaginably larger. These are old statistics, but the trend for Android market share is up globally.December 2022
Global Android: 72.37%
Global iOS: 26.98%
US Android: 43.75%
US iOS: 55.85%
Android tablets might be different. But if you want to make creative software available in emerging markets, make sure people know you prefer your software. It needs to be open to them. And Adobe isn't lifting a finger for the Android crowd. Hopefully, Serif will, but that is up to them, honestly.- Equiste and pixelstuff
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3 hours ago, itContinues said:
Start with stylus-products like the Samsung (tab) S-series. That will make lofe quite a bit easier.
@OriolFM that's precisely why I said, start at the most relevant producer. You might even get money from Samsung to do it, as it would make their hardware even more valuable.
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Hopefully Affinity will make an android push in 2024. I want to be off of the Adobe Suite by the end of the year as it is not really getting better and what I am sering from Affinity they seem to be really improving leaps and bonds but as I just left most of the Apple ecosystem behind me I am not eager to return. Honestly Apple is way too pricey for what it is.
Affinity seems like the exact opposite of that. if fragmentation is an issue. Start with stylus-products like the Samsung (tab) S-series. That will make lofe quite a bit easier.
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Yeah.. I don't use Clip because I do not like their pricing model and I do not like the software enough to deal with it. I didn't leave Adobe to go go back into a similar pricing model.I. went for Affinity because of theirs even which I think is a model that is more fair.