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  1. Thanks murfee. I really don't want to resort to trying to get it balanced by moving sliders. All the software I use currently can do it with a picker. As I explained I can usually find something white like that floor. I do a lot of theatrical work where the lighting temperature changes - but it is rare that there is not someone wearing white or even a tuxedo. When I do house interiors I take along my grey card. And thanks smadell. Nor do I want to have to colour balance each RAW. In this case I only used a stack of three. If I have to do a room with big windows I may need five shots. Horses for courses. Whilst you have been digging into your memory banks for a solution I have been running through the non HDR shots of that art class. I did them with DxO this morning in a bit of a rush. There are about forty shots there. I have just been through them with my wb picker alive in DxO and matched the whole sequence. It did not take long and I don't like my porfolio folders to have varying WB as it destracts my clients. Thanks both of you for helping. Sadly there are two other matters where the developers of Affinity don't have the same needs/priorities as me. The sum total suggests that AP is not an essential need for my digital toolbox. Tony
  2. Thanks Murfee. Not your fault but oh so sad. I've been rattling along for a week complaining that I can't use the picker for my HDR work and suddenly discover it is not a bug but a feature! I came across Affinity through some posts on DPReview about HDR. Like smadell I use DxO for my RAWs and I find it does a good job - better than the one that must remain nameless that I abandonned in early January. Also mentioned on DPR was Photo Matrix - it is not good. Clearly the guys posting that thread on DPR did not realise Affinity was not designed to work on HDRs created by unbalanced RAWs. Anyway, not to worry. I'll go back to SNS-HDR that will work from RAWs. And sorry for wasting everyone's time around here (to say nothing of my own - grin grin grin!) Tony
  3. I guess that Tony was doing a HDR Merge rather than developing a RAW I am. Are you telling me that 'New HDR merge' can't be done from three RAW files? T
  4. Thanks smadell Two screen shots follow. My DxO one you have seen. The other one is Affinity. When I have selected my three HDR RAWs I untick 'Tone Map HDR image'. As soon as the files are merged I click Develop Persona and the WB icon in the left hand column (OK maybe I was accidentally using Tone Mapping but not this time). You'll see the result. The Tint bar is at 0%. No matter where I move the WB picker the Tint stays at zero and I can see the Temperature moving. In the screen shot I cannot get the tiles white - and look at the teacher's complexion, flesh tone in DxO and yellow in Affinity. I have tried this on several other files. I can never move Tint off zero.
  5. Thanks guys. I did actually install 1.8 this morning - it was offered when I fired up. I'll delete the whole app and start again. Can you point me to any hidden stuff in, say. Users that I ought to delete by hand? Tony
  6. Thanks Murfee I'm not offered it to be dragged. RAW? Oly e-m5 mkii
  7. OK, Walt. I asked Dan and he did not react when I showed him the difference. He's seen the screen shots. I am stuck now. It only takes half a day to this thread to be forced off the front page so other users must have more pressing needs than having a true WB. Goodness knows how they photograph an interior for a promo or a shirt for a catalogue and they are trying to guess the right WB I've posted a separate thread explaining the three reasons buying AP would be a total waste of money (no matter how cheap it is). Earlier today someone else at Affinity said their software developers were too busy to comment on individual problems. Oh dear! I don't give in easily but knocking my head against a brick wall for a week is about my limit. Tony
  8. Excuse me, Walt. You should investigate why that is happening. So you should try to figure out what's wrong the first time that causes the missing tools. Do you seriously think I haven't? I have exchanged numerous emails with Dan at the company. On this very topic. Look at the length of this thread. I'm a newbie. Eighteen years of digital photography but only six days of trying to get a white balance in Affinity. Advice so far includes removing the calibration from my screen, painting a grey line on the image, using the hue slider as wb only works one slider and finally someone saying it was obvious I was working on a jpg (clever to do that before I create one). Interesting approaches but not really getting me far. Tell me Walt. In all your 10,039 posts am I really the only person who can't get the WB picker to pick a WB? At least one of the assorted answers admitted the picker does not work. So far that's the most progress I have made on this problem! Tony
  9. I am coming to the end of my trial period of Affinity Photo. I could simply disappear. Before I go I thought it might help to say why AP will not work for me as a professional photographer with digital experience dating back to 2002. Posting here will give other forum members a platform to say if I am talking rubbish. Out of politeness to Affinity I sent the post to them yesterday. They said their developers were very busy working on future apps and updates and unable to respond to emails like mine. If that is company policy then so be it. However, it might help other professional photographers in that it shows what I found critically lacking after a full week of testing and stopped me being a purchaser. Had I known the below I would not have wasted the week! White Balance. This was the problem I encountered first. I am a photojournalist. When I cover events I take several hundred shots and they are often a mix of daylight and ambient light. I shoot RAW. The first step in the converting and correcting process must be to get the right WB. Altering brightness, black points, etc before correcting the WB is counterproductive as you’ll almost certainly need to do them again. Adjusting WB by eye requires the memory of a genius. Keying in a Kelvin requires you to have taken a reading as well as the photo. Far the quickest way to get the right WB is to use a picker – most shots contain a suitable reference point and when I do product shots or interiors I include a grey card. It took me quite a few posts here to find out how to find the Affinity ‘picker’. Yesterday it emerged that it is faulty! There is no way I can use software without a quick and accurate way to set the WB. Lack of sidecar. I am told that the system does not have an easy way of recording the changes made to my original RAW files. All I can do is create a best quality TIFF and retain it. I know computer memory is cheap but, when one is storing thousands of images a year it is a most inefficient way of recording the changes and it still does not record the way those changes have been made. All the RAW converters I have used since I moved from film to digital around 2002 have built small files (sidecars) of a few kb that one could be filed alongside their appropriate RAWs. AP needs to adopt that if it aspires to fit the needs of photographers like me. No batch export. I suspect this is partly challenged by the problem I hit yesterday where I could not export a file with the same name as the RAW it originated from. I was told this was because AP needed to find the name in a layer. This was no help to me as I don’t need or use layers. When I work on a sequence of RAW files I want to be able to either print from them and/or export them. My web catalogue is built from 1960 by 1080 jpgs. Sometimes I’ll build a set of 85% full pixel jpgs so I am ready to send some of the frames to a magazine publisher. There is no way I can do this in AP other than doing it frame by frame. Conclusion. Everyone I have chatted with on the forum or by email to the Help Desk has been tolerant of my newness and keen to help. I have read a bit about Serif and I can see how AP has emerged. I can guess why they emulated the Photoshop concept of layers. I am lucky that when I started working digital images I was pointed to an image editor that did not use layers. I say lucky as, despite what Adobe will claim, working without them is easier and more flexible. I would hate anyone to feel this is an attack on Serif/AP. I have deliberately not named the software I use as that would not be ethical on this web site. All I want to do is to try to help by explaining what I think is missing. Tony London UK
  10. You say " First, it’s not entirely fair to compare white balance correction performed on a Raw file to that performed on a JPG image. Since you’re using the White Balance panel, you must be in the Photo persona, " Not true. I am working in Develop Persona on a RAW image not a JPG. I'll post some screen shots. In the first you will see that in Develop Persona the left hand stack of icons does not contain the White Balance. I clicked Apply at the top left and it took me into what Photo Persona. My second screen shot shows the list at the left - many more icons. If I go back into Develop Persona (the one I am advised to use on the RAW image) my left hand stack of images now contains a White Balance icon. Screen shot three. My fourth and final screen shot shows what happens when I click on those white floor tiles. Mindful of the earlier post that the WB does not correct the tint I moved it myself as far to the right as possible. You will see that even this cannot make the tiles white. I cannot believe that so many photographers using Affinity Photo can manage without the ability to get a true White Balance.
  11. Thanks smadell. You mention the levels that may have been applied by SNS-HDR. They are probably there as I did the screen shot in a rush. I realised that something was amiss with the WB picker when I was processing my non HDR shots from that art class using DxO. I shot most of my portfolio in normal RAW and just tried a few HDR ones as an experiment. I'll re-post my Affinity picker shot and then the first RAW of the HDR triple processed using DxO. I have applied no adjustments to the DxO other than using the WB picker. If you are right, smadell, in your assessment that the Affinity picker only does half the needed correction I find it amazing that I am the first person to report this as a problem. Maybe I am not?
  12. Because I use too many other apps that expect the calibrated monitor profile - and work perfectly.
  13. Fascinating. You are saying that my calibrated monitor setting is wrong. Does anyone endorse that advice? Tony
  14. Thanks Dave. So the colour picker doesn't work then? Or not without what you suggested? Tony
  15. I am not using layers. I am simply trying to match up three bracketed shots using the HDR stacking in the prog. T
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