Thanks its more difficult for you to get your head round my problem , than it is for me. - I found the downloaded programme under Publisher2 between Word and Teams in the bottom bar. I have always put my Page Plus and Affinity programmes under Serif as the owner does not change , even if the name of the programmes does. I think Serif should indicate where to save the new programmes when they change versions as us duffers just do as we are told and if they change the destination for a suite of programmes they they should indicate where they should go with at least they are under A rather than S, as in the past. Philip (Age 77 and about to enter a new and challenging world of the same as usual).