design punch Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Win 10/64bit newest update - afpub V 1.7.3.475 beta I copied a file, where language is German ( in the master text style) and changes it to english (in this case, font: roboto). All "ff" now turned to an "unknown" figure Please refer to the pic - 3th line at "Effekte" (above: original, below: language changed). Its somehow a little bit of random behavior. If I change the language to english (american english) in the character panel, the correct "ff" appears. Additionally, one can switch back to "german" it may or may not return to "ff". And it seems not to happen on every font. Attached is a demo afpub-file which demonstrates this behavior (you can changes master text style or sub styles as well). Font test.afpub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Pauls Posted October 2, 2019 Staff Share Posted October 2, 2019 I've been trying this and it is functioning correctly for me. Although it's possible we're using different font versions - does this also occur if you use Arial ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
design punch Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 Hi, no, it doesn't happen on Arial. Anyhow I have been playing around and it seems not a language problem itself. I can start with english and switch to german, and the same failure happens. I can switch to Arial (or others) - its ok - and switch back to Roboto, and it's ok (within english language) ! Next I switch back to German and it's again not ok ... ! No consistancy .. Once its wrong (adjusting in text styles only) you can change language etc. in the character panel, the failure remains. Looks like its a matter within text style panel modifications. What Roboto version do you have? I'm using Version 2,137 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
design punch Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 Roboto 2.137 is still the actual version by google I checked it again, additionally with Indesgn, which tells me, that a glyph is missing. Its maybe possible (i cant remeber) that i got the text from another source (pages or an older word version) and used it by copy & paste. So the original text version (maybe) was using another glyph-type, which is not included in roboto ... Anyhow it's still a mistery to me, why the "ff" appears and disappears by switching language in the text style panel ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Pauls Posted October 3, 2019 Staff Share Posted October 3, 2019 I've tried the google and adobe versions and not been able to recreate that language switching behaviour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
design punch Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 Hi Pauls, ok, lets drop it ... maybe its one of the things, which happen only once ... caused by unknown circumstances Thanks anyhow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmcd Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I think the odd way this font is constructed is confusing APub. The ff ligature is one of those few ligatures which have an actual Unicode code point (FB00). Fonts will usually use these standard code points as applications like LibreOffice will auto-correct the two consecutive f characters to this Unicode ligature. But in Roboto-Regular.ttf (v2.137, 2017) this glyph (#437) has no Unicode code point assigned. The glyph does not appear in the OpenType standard ligatures (as it usually would). The glyph is only accessible as an OpenType discretionary ligature (named f_f). I am not sure how it is even appearing if you have not enabled discretionary ligatures. This appears to be another example of Google Fonts weirdness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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design punch Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 Thank's a lot for your desciptions and answers. I agree that Google fonts (originally built as WEB fonts) are not the best choice for typgraphic work. But as long there is something in this world, which is called "clients" ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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design punch Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 Thanks a lot ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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