Problem Saving Aspect Ratio Presets in AP 1.7.2

[CSM Ltd]

Ladies & Gentlemen

I am fairly new to AP and am struggling to create Aspect Ratio presets for my Instagram post images.

I have followed the Instructions below but never get the option to "Create Preset"

As can be seen in the screenshot the 'Create Preset' option is greyed out - this occurs if applying to an image or in this case a sample document. 

I would appreciate help with this.

To save crop settings as a preset:

1. Adjust the context toolbar settings.
2. From the context toolbar, choose Presets, click the menu and select Create Preset.
3. Type a name for the crop preset and (optional) choose a category to put it in, then click Create.

 

 

[Callum]

Hi CSM Ltd,

Welcome to the forums

Please could you make sure you don't already have a 4x5 preset?

Thanks

C

 

[walt.farrell]

1 hour ago, Callum said:

Please could you make sure you don't already have a 4x5 preset?

Or possibly a 5x4,  which (I think) is one of the standard crop ratios that Photo supplies.

[telemax]

You type in fields 4 and 5, it's too small. Write 40 x 50 or 400 x 500.

And you can save the preset.

[walt.farrell]

17 minutes ago, telemax said:

You type in fields 4 and 5, it's too small. Write 40 x 50 or 400 x 500.

And you can save the preset.

It's not that 4:5 is too small, but that it duplicates 5:4.

[CSM Ltd]

Gentlemen

Thank you greatly for the sage advice - renaming my preset as suggested resolved my issue.

Very much appreciated.

Paul

 

[Steel Rat]

On 9/20/2019 at 4:18 AM, walt.farrell said:

It's not that 4:5 is too small, but that it duplicates 5:4.

How is that a duplicate? They are clearly different.

[Steel Rat]

Ok, so I created a custom ratio of 90:160, so as not to "duplicate" 16:9. I was able to save it.

However, when I loaded a new image, the crop ratio came up as 160:90, without me choosing any presets. So I clicked on my 90:160 preset, and nothing changed. I had to click on a different preset (1:1) then click on my custom preset for it to be correct. Clearly something isn't working right. I just upgraded to 1.7.3.

[walt.farrell]

26 minutes ago, Steel Rat said:

How is that a duplicate? They are clearly different.

It's a duplicate in the sense that they're the same except for a rotation, and with one push of the Rotate button on the Context Toolbar 4:5 becomes 5:4.

[Steel Rat]

Just now, walt.farrell said:

It's a duplicate in the sense that they're the same except for a rotation, and with one push of the Rotate button on the Context Toolbar 4:5 becomes 5:4.

I see that. But that creates extra, unnecessary steps in a workflow.

See my subsequent post also, the tool doesn't work correctly, in my opinion.

[walt.farrell]

1 hour ago, Steel Rat said:

Ok, so I created a custom ratio of 90:160, so as not to "duplicate" 16:9. I was able to save it.

However, when I loaded a new image, the crop ratio came up as 160:90, without me choosing any presets. So I clicked on my 90:160 preset, and nothing changed. I had to click on a different preset (1:1) then click on my custom preset for it to be correct. Clearly something isn't working right. I just upgraded to 1.7.3.

The Crop Tool is supposed to remember the last preset you used, so having used your 90:160 preset for one image the tool should remember it for the next.

However, the tool also seems sensitive to the orientation of the image. Given a portrait orientation, it seems (though I have not tested extensively) that the tool will prefer to orient the crop box with the longer dimension running vertically, but given a landscape orientation it will prefer to orient the box with the longer dimension running horizontally.

Again, if it guesses wrong you can use the Rotate button.

Someone from Serif would have to comment on whether it's working as they intend.

[Steel Rat]

2 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

The Crop Tool is supposed to remember the last preset you used, so having used your 90:160 preset for one image the tool should remember it for the next.

However, the tool also seems sensitive to the orientation of the image. Given a portrait orientation, it seems (though I have not tested extensively) that the tool will prefer to orient the crop box with the longer dimension running vertically, but given a landscape orientation it will prefer to orient the box with the longer dimension running horizontally.

Again, if it guesses wrong you can use the Rotate button.

Someone from Serif would have to comment on whether it's working as they intend.

That's what I'm seeing as well. I'd like to be able to turn that feature off.

The problem with it choosing 16:9 instead of 9:16, then rotating, depending on the image, means the crop grid is way outside the bounds of the image.

Anyway. I appreciate your responses, and your patience.

[R C-R]

17 hours ago, Steel Rat said:

The problem with it choosing 16:9 instead of 9:16, then rotating, depending on the image, means the crop grid is way outside the bounds of the image.

IIRC, the staff have said this behavior has been noted & passed on to the developers for review but so far nothing definitive has been decided about how or if it will be changed (or when).

[Steel Rat]

On 10/12/2019 at 12:12 PM, walt.farrell said:

It's a duplicate in the sense that they're the same except for a rotation, and with one push of the Rotate button on the Context Toolbar 4:5 becomes 5:4.

Mathematically, 4:5 is not the same as 5:4. I see your point, but it's not the same. The reason for creating a custom ratio is to reduce the number of repetitious steps one has to take. As I pointed out before, rotating doesn't just make something correct. You then have to fiddle with it to make it fit what you're doing. If the ratio was what I wanted in the first place, much less fiddling.

[Steel Rat]

On 10/12/2019 at 1:19 PM, walt.farrell said:

However, the tool also seems sensitive to the orientation of the image. Given a portrait orientation, it seems (though I have not tested extensively) that the tool will prefer to orient the crop box with the longer dimension running vertically, but given a landscape orientation it will prefer to orient the box with the longer dimension running horizontally.

Again, if it guesses wrong you can use the Rotate button.

I would rather it not guess. I chose a specific ratio for a reason, to crop out an image with that ratio and orientation, not a guessed one.