Units/ Increments

[Tony Watson]

Does publisher have a 'units/ increments' preference panel as In-Design had?

[stokerg]

Hi Tony Watson,

The closest we get to anything like that is under Preferences>User Interface.

If you can post exactly what you are looking to do, we may have another method of getting the same results.

[Tony Watson]

What I'm trying to do is increase/ decrease the leading (line-spacing) in one or more paragraphs. This is to fit the text into a given area.

At the moment, if I select a block of text and press Alt+up arrow, the leading does increase but far more than I'd like. In In-Design preferences there was an option to increase or decrease the leading by a much small increment. Is there any way of doing this in Publisher?

Thank You

Tony

[thomaso]

Have you experienced yet the additional modifier keys? To me it's 1 and 10 pt for leading. What is "far more" and "much smaller" in your eyes in values of a unit?

[Tony Watson]

Here's a video which might explain better what I am trying to do. At the moment if I select a column's worth of text, then increase the leading down that column (using Alt+Down arrow), the leading increases by approx 10%. What I'd like to do is to increase the leading increment by say 1%, allowing for much more precise text adjustments.

[carl123]

21 minutes ago, Tony Watson said:

(using Alt+Down arrow),

The ALT key does nothing on my system (Windows)

But the CTRL key decreases the leading amount when using an Arrow key and the Shift key increases it

Does CTRL+Down Arrow do anything on a Mac?

[Tony Watson]

Thanks, but the CTRL does nothing. On my Mac ALT+Down Arrow increases the leading  and ALT+Up Arrow decreases the leading.

That's fine, but what I'm after is a way of controlling the AMOUNT of the leading. AT moment, the amount is approx 10%, whilst I's like to be more precise, say  1% or 2%

[CLC]

Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down arrow

No setting of the increments anywhere though, afaik

[Tony Watson]

Does nothing I'm afraid

[carl123]

Try Cmd-Alt-Down 

(This was from a post in 2015, it may have changed)

if not, someone with a MAC may have to help you further

[CLC]

Oh yes, you didn't say what platform you're on, I assumed Windows.

On Mac, it's CMD+ALT+Up/Down arrows indeed

[Tony Watson]

CMD+ALT+Up/Down does increase/ decrease the leading, but by a much greater amount than using ALT+arrow keys on their own. What I need is a way to achieve a much smaller adjustment. 

Sorry, I am on a Mac.

[CLC]

Well, as far as I know there's no way of changing the increment.

Feel free to add a feature request, I also believe it would be good to be able to change this.

[walt.farrell]

@stokerg: Since you have been involved in this, I'm a bit puzzled by Text > Paragraph Leading > Increase and Text > Paragraph Leading > Precise Increase (and their Decrease equivalents).

For example,

• Increase (or Alt+Down) takes a paragraph leading of 12.4 pt and increases to 13.9 (1.5 pt).
• Precise Increase (Ctrl+Alt+Down) takes that 12.4 leading and increases it to 15.5 for me (3.1 pt).

I have a hard time understanding why 3.1 is more "precise" than 1.5. And generally I'm used to the "Precise" ones giving smaller increments. For example, Text > Size > Increase takes 12pt text and makes it 13pt. But Text > Size > Precise Increase takes 12pt text to 12.1 pt. Thus, for Size, "precise" is 1/10 the increment of non-precise. But for Paragraph Leading "precise" is a factor of 10 (sorry, 2, for that brief experiment).

Shouldn't that be the other way around? The current values seem like a bug.

(For another example, Text > Baseline > Raise Baseline and Precise Raise Baseline work like Size. A 1pt increase for Raise and .1pt for Precise Raise.)

Edited September 13, 2019 by walt.farrell
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[Tony Watson]

36 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

@stokerg: Since you have been involved in this, I'm a bit puzzled by Text > Paragraph Leading > Increase and Text > Paragraph Leading > Precise Increase (and their Decrease equivalents).

For example,

• Increase (or Alt+Down) takes a paragraph leading of 12.4 pt and increases to 13.9 (1.5 pt).
• Precise Increase (Ctrl+Alt+Down) takes that 12.4 leading and increases it to 15.5 for me (3.1 pt).

I have a hard time understanding why 3.1 is more "precise" than 1.5. And generally I'm used to the "Precise" ones giving smaller increments. For example, Text > Size > Increase takes 12pt text and makes it 13pt. But Text > Size > Precise Increase takes 12pt text to 12.1 pt. Thus, for Size, "precise" is 1/10 the increment of non-precise. But for Paragraph Leading "precise" is a factor of 10.

Shouldn't that be the other way around? The current values seem like a bug.

(For another example, Text > Baseline > Raise Baseline and Precise Raise Baseline work like Size. A 1pt increase for Raise and .1pt for Precise Raise.)

Totally agree with all that. Surely 'precise' increase should be a lower increment than 'normal' increase?? This does need looking at.