basilic Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) I am using an OpenType font called Belle Allure available here : https://www.dafont.com/fr/belle-allure.font more specifically the Belle Allure CM In Publisher, the ligature and the other features of this font works fine as long as the word written is using a single colour. As a teacher, I mix 2 colours in words to emphasize sounds or syllables. When mixing colours, ie I write the complete word in black then I change the colour of one or two specific letters, then the ligatures are broken between letters of different colours. I tried all the variations in the Typography palette, but no change. See the third text block in the Publisher screenshot attached . In Word or in TextEdit, I don't have this issue. See attached. Any idea? macOS 10.13.6, Publisher 1.7.2, Word 2016 Edit: I tried copy/paste from Word or TextEdit to a new text block in Publisher, but no improvement. Edited August 28, 2019 by basilic Additional explanation Quote -macOS Ventura - Affinity Suite v2.2.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 That is indeed a disappointing issue. Until the Serif team will solve or tell how to avoid this you could work around it by applying character variants, for instance 1 and/or 7 come a little closer to the origin pure 1-color text: Another option would not assign text/font color but additionally place a red shape inside the text layer. You can scale, move, cmd-copy every shape: Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmcd Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 APub is breaking the OpenType Contextual Alternates (calt) feature. And in this font that is fairly complex (like most handwriting fonts). For example ... There are 10 different variations of the lower case r. Not all of those are available in character variants. You could select the "right" character with the glyph browser -- but that would be a nightmare. Unfortunately until this is fixed you are better-off using another tool. Better for your mental health that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basilic Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 Appreciate your answers. I have tested other handwriting fonts like Cursive standard or SGCursive or ScolaCursive for instance and I don't face the issue I have reported. I could use one of those that are OK, but they unfortunately don't propose all the variants/glyphs as I'd like to. I then assume it's a bug in Publisher, as there's no issue in TextEdit or Word either. Hope this will be taken into consideration by Serif for a fix. Quote -macOS Ventura - Affinity Suite v2.2.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmcd Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I took a look at the Cursive standard, ScolaCursive, and SGCursive fonts. The versions I found are all older TrueType fonts. So there are no OpenType features. So there is no OpenType Contextual Alternates affecting the text. We documented another OpenType Contextual Alternates bug in another thread. It was not fixed as-of v1.7.1. Have not checked it yet in v1.7.2. Hopefully this issue will also be added to the bug tracker. Belle Allure is impressive for a free font. The calt code is quite complex. Thanks for making me aware of it -- it is a keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrettm30 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 On 8/30/2019 at 12:51 PM, LibreTraining said: We documented another OpenType Contextual Alternates bug in another thread. It was not fixed as-of v1.7.1. Have not checked it yet in v1.7.2. It might be worth checking again, as 1.7.2 did have some attention given to OpenType. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basilic Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 As a matter of interest, it's actually even worse with QuarkXpress 2018 (see below). Some combinations of letters are not correctly handled by Quark even when using a single colour. I tried all calt variations, but no luck. Odd to see that there's no issue with non-professional-publishing application softwares like TextEdit or MSoffice Word. I would have thought the other way around... Quote -macOS Ventura - Affinity Suite v2.2.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmcd Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 You got me thinking ... so I also did some tests. Does not work properly in QuarkXPress 2019. Works just fine in LibreOffice 6.3.0.4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Pauls Posted September 5, 2019 Staff Share Posted September 5, 2019 This still occurs in 1.7.2 and is already reported I've added this example to the the issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basilic Posted March 3, 2020 Author Share Posted March 3, 2020 Still not fixed in 1.8.1 Quote -macOS Ventura - Affinity Suite v2.2.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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