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Screen Flicker in Develop Studio 1.7.2.471


AiDon

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Hi,

Having a screen flicker when loading a RAW image (any) using the NVIDIA GTX1050/4GB with Driver v431.60 (latest) and the integrated HD Graphics 630 but not using WARP. You  can see the effect in the attached video.

Both PC’s Win 11 x64 System with Intuos Pen & Touch 
PC1 ASUS ROG Strix - AMD Ryzen 9 6900X CPU @ 3.3GHz. 32GB RAM

- GPU 1: AMD Radeon integrated. GPU 2: NVIDIA RTX 3060, 6GB
PC2 HP Pavilion - 
Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), 16GB RAM
 - GPU 1: Intel HD Graphics 630, GPU 2: NVIDIA GTX1050, 4GB

iPad (8th Gen) 2020

 

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Forgot to add these are the Develop Assistant settings, and have tried with Ton Curve off and no difference.

 

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Both PC’s Win 11 x64 System with Intuos Pen & Touch 
PC1 ASUS ROG Strix - AMD Ryzen 9 6900X CPU @ 3.3GHz. 32GB RAM

- GPU 1: AMD Radeon integrated. GPU 2: NVIDIA RTX 3060, 6GB
PC2 HP Pavilion - 
Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), 16GB RAM
 - GPU 1: Intel HD Graphics 630, GPU 2: NVIDIA GTX1050, 4GB

iPad (8th Gen) 2020

 

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Sorry, your video was a bit short...

Is that just a single flicker when you first load the file or does it continue to flicker whilst you remain in the Develop persona 

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You can see at the end it flickers once and, as pointed out, it happens on the NVIDIA and Intel GPUs, and didn't happen on the previous version.

There is no reinstall for Intel drivers as they are part of Windows update and I reinstalled the NVIDIA studio driver, no change.

I wouldn't expect there to be any problem with WARP.

Both PC’s Win 11 x64 System with Intuos Pen & Touch 
PC1 ASUS ROG Strix - AMD Ryzen 9 6900X CPU @ 3.3GHz. 32GB RAM

- GPU 1: AMD Radeon integrated. GPU 2: NVIDIA RTX 3060, 6GB
PC2 HP Pavilion - 
Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), 16GB RAM
 - GPU 1: Intel HD Graphics 630, GPU 2: NVIDIA GTX1050, 4GB

iPad (8th Gen) 2020

 

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Just reinstalled the drivers, first the Game Ready 431.60 and then the Studio Driver 431.70 and the flicker remains.

Both PC’s Win 11 x64 System with Intuos Pen & Touch 
PC1 ASUS ROG Strix - AMD Ryzen 9 6900X CPU @ 3.3GHz. 32GB RAM

- GPU 1: AMD Radeon integrated. GPU 2: NVIDIA RTX 3060, 6GB
PC2 HP Pavilion - 
Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), 16GB RAM
 - GPU 1: Intel HD Graphics 630, GPU 2: NVIDIA GTX1050, 4GB

iPad (8th Gen) 2020

 

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Note that on my older Sony PC with the GTX540M (driver 391.35) I don't have a screen flicker once on opening the image ... just a problem with the app trying to "convert" the profile of all RAW images. So, I think the issue is that it is opening the images with the profile mentioned in the RAW file and then assigning the ProPhotoRGB and not converting.

 

So maybe on the later PC I get the flicker because it is "converting" the profile?

Both PC’s Win 11 x64 System with Intuos Pen & Touch 
PC1 ASUS ROG Strix - AMD Ryzen 9 6900X CPU @ 3.3GHz. 32GB RAM

- GPU 1: AMD Radeon integrated. GPU 2: NVIDIA RTX 3060, 6GB
PC2 HP Pavilion - 
Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), 16GB RAM
 - GPU 1: Intel HD Graphics 630, GPU 2: NVIDIA GTX1050, 4GB

iPad (8th Gen) 2020

 

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So, if I go back to the newer PC and change the working profile from ProPhotoRGB / ProphotoRGB (Linear) to sRGB61966-2.1 / sRGB61966-2.1 (Linear) there is no flicker ... I guess it is a problem with the display profile (system)/working profiles settings.

And again Affinity shouldn't be reading the ICC Profile from a RAW file, opening it in that and then converting to the working profile. RAW files have no color profiles, only a profile for the camera to create JPEGs.

Both PC’s Win 11 x64 System with Intuos Pen & Touch 
PC1 ASUS ROG Strix - AMD Ryzen 9 6900X CPU @ 3.3GHz. 32GB RAM

- GPU 1: AMD Radeon integrated. GPU 2: NVIDIA RTX 3060, 6GB
PC2 HP Pavilion - 
Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), 16GB RAM
 - GPU 1: Intel HD Graphics 630, GPU 2: NVIDIA GTX1050, 4GB

iPad (8th Gen) 2020

 

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@GabrielM you closed this thread saying it is a duplicate:

Actually this isn't a duplicate as this happens when setting the output profile to ProPhotoRGB from the Develop Persona. If you use sRGB / SRGB Linear you don't get a flicker in the Develop Persona but it occurs in the Photo Persona when you set the output profile from the Develop Persona to ProPhotoRGB.

Both PC’s Win 11 x64 System with Intuos Pen & Touch 
PC1 ASUS ROG Strix - AMD Ryzen 9 6900X CPU @ 3.3GHz. 32GB RAM

- GPU 1: AMD Radeon integrated. GPU 2: NVIDIA RTX 3060, 6GB
PC2 HP Pavilion - 
Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), 16GB RAM
 - GPU 1: Intel HD Graphics 630, GPU 2: NVIDIA GTX1050, 4GB

iPad (8th Gen) 2020

 

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It seems to happen when it populates the information next to the persona icons. You can see it between the 6 and 7 second mark. At 6 seconds it is empty/blank but at 7 seconds (after the flash) the info has populated. 

I'm not sure if this means anything or even has any part in the flash :S

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Actually I think it is a issue with ICC Profiles as it didn't happen until the 1.7  update and happens if you use any profile other that the display compatible profile. For example:

- if I use sRGB for the RGB color profile no problem except if I assign a different output color profile from Develop Persona

- if I use any other profile than sRGB in the Develop Persona it also happens.

So it is probably a delay in the conversion of profiles.

Also I shouldn't be getting a message about a profile being converted for a RAW file ... another thread ... as RAW files don't have color profiles. I think it was in a thread about DNG color casts.

Both PC’s Win 11 x64 System with Intuos Pen & Touch 
PC1 ASUS ROG Strix - AMD Ryzen 9 6900X CPU @ 3.3GHz. 32GB RAM

- GPU 1: AMD Radeon integrated. GPU 2: NVIDIA RTX 3060, 6GB
PC2 HP Pavilion - 
Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), 16GB RAM
 - GPU 1: Intel HD Graphics 630, GPU 2: NVIDIA GTX1050, 4GB

iPad (8th Gen) 2020

 

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