Will there be a page layout program comparable to InDesign or Quark?

[Hildy]

Having Adobe headaches today. Had to stop in and remind myself that something better is coming. I'll be ditching the Adobe line completely once I finally have an Affinity solution for all three of my primary Adobe products. Counting the days...

[the.legend]

Will the Affinity Publisher Beta be released for Mac or Windows or both? 

 

Please answer Windows or both.

[Alfred]

Please answer Windows or both.

 

Windows or both. :D

[the.legend]

Windows or both. :D

 

There you go, my day is made. THANK YOU! :D

[R C-R]

Windows or both. :D

 

Exactly the kind of answer I expect from our one & only Advɐncəd Məmbər.  :lol:

[Alfred]

Exactly the kind of answer I expect from our one & only Advɐncəd Məmbər.  :lol:

 

Sorry, but it was just too irresistible! A fuller answer would be something like: "It will be both, and I hope they're released at about the same time, but I wouldn't be greatly surprised if the Mac version comes first (quite possibly several months ahead of the Windows version)."

[ctekk]

I think the most important part of Affinity Publisher will be its interfaces to InDesign. Because people who use Adobe will most likely have friends who use Adobe (hell the whole world uses Adobe?) and they would still need to be able to collaborate after the switch to Affinity.

 

I really love Affinity D & P and I'm eager to finally get Publisher. So I never need to buy Adobe CC in my life.

 

P.s. Windows is a must.

[Petar Petrenko]

Just adding my 50c regarding the wait for Publisher. I do not mind if it takes more time than we hope, but please do take care of the quality of its key feature: text setting. The only good enough algorithms I know of are in LaTeX and InDesign. I have been using InDesign for years, setting book pages that indeed look good. I take heavy use even of typographic fine-tuning. With a decent amount of work one can achieve a lot with InDesign. I confirm I as many others I am not interested in polluting Publisher functionality by stuff from Photo or Designer, I just need it to be really good at dealing with very long and complex texts, placing bitmaps/grpahics prepared in Photo and Designer, and - this is also crucial - prooducing high quality PDFXs.

Also, some way of importing InDesign files without completely screwing their contents will be needed. I am certainly not the only one who keeps an archive of a large number of layouts that may need to get reused in future.

 

And yes I am aching to get away from Adobe as so many other users. Now I stick with CS6, hoping it will survive for some more time before an OS update renders it unusable. I hope and pray Affinity Publisher will have matured enough by then. (But rest assured: I am going to purchase Publisher the moment it becomes available).

 

I completelly agree with you and I hope that everything dealing with text (except artistic text) will be removed from AD and APh once when Publisher will come out.

Also, I work with publishing software 20+ years and used a lot of software like PageMaker Quark, InDesign... and I still can't understand the logic of text styles used in AD and APh. Why do I need paragraph settings when I want to create a character style and vice versa? I really don't know what are the developers try to invent here. A  hot water?

If these text styles are going to be implemented in APub, then Publisher would be totally useless for me.

For me, InDesign has the best way of dealing with both kind of styles and it should be used as a model for APub.

[Tia Lapis]

Is it just me or are the requests getting weirder by the day since the Windows crowd joined the forum?

[R C-R]

Is it just me or are the requests getting weirder by the day since the Windows crowd joined the forum?

The requests/suggestions are certainly more plentiful & diverse than before. A few of them do strike me as a bit weird, but I don't know if the overall ratio of weird to not weird is any different.

 

I think part of the apparent weirdness is there are now a substantial number of users of Windows only apps here, like the Serif Plus & CorelDraw products, so some things they are used to in those apps may seem weird to Mac users. Similarly, the Windows & Mac OS's are enough different "under the hood" that users of one platform will find some things weird about how their system level features are used in the Affinity apps on the other one.

[Tia Lapis]

That may be it. Still I see it rather weird to expect the removal of text function from Designer and Photo or full InDesign compatibility (not even InDesign can claim this...)

[larsh]

Hi, I just start a new book; is there a beta APub to get? lars

[Petar Petrenko]

Hi, I just start a new book; is there a beta APub to get? lars

 

It is supposed to come out in 2017.

[larsh]

Thanks, Petar

[stefhz]

Any (somewhat reliable) eta on Publisher other than '2017'? ...

 

I have been in product development myself and appreciate the efforts and the delays that can come with it. However, betas had been announced for late 2015 or early 2016 ... and I am at a crossroad here: either go full into Affinity products and dump Creative Suite, or dump Affinity. ... I don't have the time to try software out, only to find out that it only makes sense once another software comes out some time in the distant future.

[jengray]

Erma gerd this just might be the answer to my publishing whining -- about a month ago, I'd started writing a video game guide using InDesign. At this time it's over 210 pages, and I'm not halfway through the book. All was going well until this morning when I went to confirm the table of contents, the software crashed like 30 times. I can't figure out why this is happening, and started looking into other alternatives, as I don't want to have to switch up my old Adobe software for a rental Cloud version. 

 

I signed up for notifications, and stoked to hear any news on the development of Publisher - a thousand times, thank you!

[onamac]

I completelly agree with you and I hope that everything dealing with text (except artistic text) will be removed from AD and APh once when Publisher will come out.

 

Well, I don't need page layout in AP since that will be what Publisher is for. But I still want a text tool in AD and AP. Many times I do a logo and need a text tool for that, so I wouldn't want it removed completely!

[Petar Petrenko]

@onamac

 

artistic text is pefrectly suited for logos. There's absolutelly no need for another text options.

[Tia Lapis]

Who are you to decide what needs other people have?  :rolleyes:

[mac_heibu]

Who he is? Simply someone, who doesn't complain, that you can't use a hammer as a screw driver. :)

[Oval]

Who are you to decide what needs other people have?  :rolleyes:

 

I really know what people need: a tweet from Tronald Dump … or was it a tweed?

 

@ Tia Lapis

Don't worry! Serif will do what only Serif will do. 

[R C-R]

Who are you to decide what needs other people have?  :rolleyes:

May I point out that there is a difference between want & need without ruffling any feathers?

 

(Just trying to pour a little oil on troubled waters, so please avoid the temptation to set it on fire.  :lol: )

[Tia Lapis]

*lights a torch and starts singing* "Fire" :)

[Bri-Toon]

The Frame Text Tool still has it's advantages though, so I wouldn't want all other text options to be eliminated. It's size stays the same whiling scaling the text box, and adding artistic text to a shape converts it to frame text while the shape can still be manipulated. So artistic text wouldn't have the same functions, whereas it might get distorted. I do find both very useful.

[R C-R]

*lights a torch and starts singing* "Fire" :)

So, to take this utterly & completely off topic, which "Fire" are you starting to sing, Arthur Brown's 1968 'shock rock' predecessor song or Bruce Springsteen's much milder 1986 ballad? The first would worry me a lot, the second not so much.  :o  

 

(I am an old retired concert sound mixer, so these things matter to me. :lol: )