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I'm interested why, when using Studio Link, the appropriate apps are not loaded with their own personas?


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54 minutes ago, Petar Petrenko said:

the appropriate apps are not loaded with their own personas

To do this, use the "Edit in Designer/Photo ..." command.


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49 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

To do this, use the "Edit in Designer/Photo ..." command.

That way I would launch the appropriate app which is not what I want. If so, why do we need Studio link then?


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14 minutes ago, Petar Petrenko said:

why do we need Studio link then?

For quick/immediate access to the basic but specific functions of the respectively application?


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35 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

For quick/immediate access to the basic but specific functions of the respectively application?

Maybe I think a liquify tool as a specific function? :)


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7 minutes ago, Petar Petrenko said:

Maybe I think a liquify tool as a specific function? :)

Yes, but as you will certainly recognize, it is definitely not basic (as well as Tone mapping). Therefore, these special features are accessible via Edit in ...

P. S. Although I imagined linking applications a bit differently, but thank God for StudioLink :-)

 

 

 

 


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Yes, the Publisher studiolink version are NOT the full version of the applications Designer, Photo.  For 100% application specific tools and configurations you need to use the stand alone application and not the one in Publisher.  I did not know this either until recently.

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2 hours ago, Terry44 said:

Yes, the Publisher studiolink version are NOT the full version of the applications Designer, Photo.  For 100% application specific tools and configurations you need to use the stand alone application and not the one in Publisher.  I did not know this either until recently.

this sucks - I was very dissapointed - I have no real need for publisher at all, but purchased it to get what I thought was a full designer and photo integrated expereience. :(

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Oh, lucky me. I found another [By Design] feature. :S


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11 hours ago, Petar Petrenko said:

That way I would launch the appropriate app which is not what I want. If so, why do we need Studio link then?

As usual, mr Petrenko is vining over petisesses...

You're never satisfied over things here on the Affinity forum... Perhaps your hobby to complain over every little small thing that almost everyone else don't care about...

 

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3 hours ago, MCFC_4Heatons said:

this sucks - I was very dissapointed - I have no real need for publisher at all, but purchased it to get what I thought was a full designer and photo integrated expereience. :(

OK, but make a refund then and then use another software and leave us alone with this vining (crybaby behaviour)...

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19 minutes ago, ErrkaPetti said:

OK, but make a refund then and then use another software and leave us alone with this vining (crybaby behaviour)... 

its called freedom of speech and feedback - if you don't like it or you don't like honest opinions, I suggest YOU go somewhere else  OR GROW UP

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22 minutes ago, ErrkaPetti said:

As usual, mr Petrenko is vining over petisesses...

You're never satisfied over things here on the Affinity forum... Perhaps your hobby to complain over every little small thing that almost everyone else don't care about...

 

Its NOT little, we were told Photo and Designer would be integrated ... in fact its not a COMPLETE integration - so therefore it was misleading.

Whats YOUR PROBLEM? Are you an Affinity developer or just some busy-body who doesn't like people giving honest feedback?????? I suggest you get another hobby rather than lurking on these forums moaning about honest opinions that can ACTUALLY make a difference.

I'll come back in a few months to see if Affinity have sorted this out - in the meantime I'll continue using Adobe Fiireworks and occassionally Photoshop.

And yes, I'll continue with my honest feedback .... good OR bad ....

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20 minutes ago, MCFC_4Heatons said:

Its NOT little, we were told Photo and Designer would be integrated ... in fact its not a COMPLETE integration - so therefore it was misleading.

Whats YOUR PROBLEM? Are you an Affinity developer or just some busy-body who doesn't like people giving honest feedback?????? I suggest you get another hobby rather than lurking on these forums moaning about honest opinions that can ACTUALLY make a difference.

I'll come back in a few months to see if Affinity have sorted this out - in the meantime I'll continue using Adobe Fiireworks and occassionally Photoshop.

And yes, I'll continue with my honest feedback .... good OR bad ....

But, if you can the story behind the birth of Affinity you may know that Serif as a company had a plan from day one to build new software that was NOT bloated with thousands of functions like the old Plus-series did...

If they then should build a new software that combine Publisher/Photo/Designer in one single executable form is out of realism...

With the new beta versions of Publisher/Photo/Designer it’s easier than ever to jump between the full apps if you need functions not include into StudioLink...

I don’t see the problem here, you and Petar P have the full software installed, so, just use your software...

We 99% other users out there is pretty impressed what we can do with Studio Link...

What I wanted to say in my two earlier posts is that a lot of users here just come here to show their’s disgrace for this wonderful software, and I can’t stand that...

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9 minutes ago, ErrkaPetti said:

that a lot of users here just come here to show their’s disgrace

Cursing and criticizing is easy, everyone can do it.


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1 hour ago, ErrkaPetti said:

As usual, mr Petrenko is vining over petisesses...

You're never satisfied over things here on the Affinity forum... Perhaps your hobby to complain over every little small thing that almost everyone else don't care about...

 

I'm just complaiming for a job partially done.

  1. If they claim the complete apps are integrated, then they had to do that, not to ommit their personas.
  2. When I click on a Photo persona to edit a Photo document with multiple layers, I expect to start immediatelly to work on it, not to additionally click on "Edit Document" and then again on "Photo Persona".

BTW, negative criticism is needed also, to keep the Team awake. They must not fell asleep as Quark did it when on v. 3.31 and slept for abount 7 years.


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23 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

Cursing and criticizing is easy, everyone can do it.

Indeed. But a professional software should be professionally tested before official releases are pushed to the public. And open forums are for open discussion, even one that you (or forum owner) might not like...


So many bugs isn't a good sign. And ignoring long standing issues while constantly pushing new features (with more bugs) isn't a good thing either.
Fixing bugs should be major priority, before adding new features. Same goes with long requested features and roadmap features.

It really feels that agile releasing scheme isn't a good way for a professional graphic design suite. Just my humble opinion.

BTW I'm quite happy with Studio Link and don't have any issues with lack of some features that I can do easily via the "old" workflow (opening files in the other editor and replacing the links in Publisher later). For me, the basic set of features is currently enough.
All the apps are quite good for their price, I have to admit. But they still lack some polishing, sadly.

Lack of basic features (Envelope Disort, Select by..., buggy Expand Stroke feature, missing Offset Path feature...) in Designer is what really grinds my gears though.

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55 minutes ago, MCFC_4Heatons said:

in fact its not a COMPLETE integration - so therefore it was misleading.

Where did Serif claim to be Full and Complete application integration? Why didn't you refund Publisher, when you completely disappointed you?


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58 minutes ago, ErrkaPetti said:

But, if you can the story behind the birth of Affinity you may know that Serif as a company had a plan from day one to build new software that was NOT bloated with thousands of functions like the old Plus-series did...

If they then should build a new software that combine Publisher/Photo/Designer in one single executable form is out of realism...

With the new beta versions of Publisher/Photo/Designer it’s easier than ever to jump between the full apps if you need functions not include into StudioLink...

I don’t see the problem here, you and Petar P have the full software installed, so, just use your software...

We 99% other users out there is pretty impressed what we can do with Studio Link...

What I wanted to say in my two earlier posts is that a lot of users here just come here to show their’s disgrace for this wonderful software, and I can’t stand that...

Many of us (all?) do not deny (i) that Serif is building a new suite (it is why we are here, no ?) from scratch with a plan from day 1 and (ii) that some users look forward (are eager) to a rapid integration of new features and optimization.

I am convinced we all wish the most efficient creative suite alternative to the current Adobe renting-model. Serif already provides such trinity suite. Are the apps fully integrated ?... no, and I can live with. Like Petar I guess, what I do not understand is the rationale behind APublisher personas and therefore “Studio Link”. Sorry to disappoint 99% of users ;)

To open those personas there is anyway a requirement for APh and AD ownership (licence) or am I wrong O.o ?… why then not to open via Studio Link their entire/full/complete UI ?

I would understand the need of a basic editing in APu without APh/AD. But when one own the 3 licences, the best would be Studio Link opens APh/AD just like “Edit in” (which could be deleted then). This would be more rational but is it possible with regards to the coding, no idea ? Just my humble opinion... Criticizing may be easy but may also fuel developers challenge ;) but it may already be on the roadmap, what we do not know since there are no longer public roadmaps.


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1 hour ago, Pšenda said:

Where did Serif claim to be Full and Complete application integration? Why didn't you refund Publisher, when you completely disappointed you?

I never said I'm dissappointed of Publisher. I just don't like how Studio Link is implemented.


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32 minutes ago, Petar Petrenko said:

I never said I'm dissappointed of Publisher.

Surely you noticed that my question was not addressed to you.


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12 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

Surely you noticed that my question was not addressed to you.

Sorry, I didn't noticed. :(


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4 hours ago, Petar Petrenko said:

1. If they claim the complete apps are integrated, then they had to do that, not to ommit their personas.

The three apps are completely integrated (or at least soon will be with the addition of "Edit in Publisher" to the retail versions of Designer & Photo). They are just not completely integrated via StudioLink. Perhaps that will change in some future version of Affinity Publisher, but I suspect there will always be some limitations for various reasons, like the conflict between Designer's Artboards & Publisher's pages (you can have one or the other but not both).

But even without greater StudioLink integration, Publisher offers a lot of features the other two apps lack, which I think makes it worth owning, even for a great many users who will never use it to create multi-page DTP documents. 


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BTW, Pixelmator Pro created an extension for Photos (on Mac) where complete Pixelmator is loaded with all features:

https://www.pixelmator.com/blog/2019/07/23/pixelmator-pro-updated-with-incredible-new-photos-extension/

I think someone from Pixelmator is following Photo forum. :)


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