spedwig Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Recently updated to Designer 1.71 on Mac, and I'm experiencing new odd behavior working with artboards and the artboard tool. In past, I could select an artboard using the artboard tool and then alt-drag to duplicate the artboard. Now, when I do so, it creates a new artboard where I'm dragging. Similarly, in the past, I could select an artboard using the artboard tool and drag it to move it. Now, when I do so, it creates a new artboard where I'm dragging. It seems I now need to select the artboard using the artboard tool and then switch to the "move" arrow tool in order to either move or (while holding alt) duplicate the artboard. This seems like a huge non-intuitive step backward, involving lots of extra mouse-clicks and tool-switching. Or is there something I'm missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 hour ago, spedwig said: It seems I now need to select the artboard using the artboard tool and then switch to the "move" arrow tool in order to either move or (while holding alt) duplicate the artboard. You shouldn't need the Artboard Tool at all. Just use the Move Tool from the beginning. Alt+drag or Ctrl/Cmd+drag (depending on whether you use Windoss or Mac) will create the duplicate and move it. Using Alt bypasses snapping, so Ctrl/Cmd would be my first choice. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spedwig Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 Didn't realize I could select artboards using the move tool by clicking on the labels. I always used the artboard tool to... work with artboards. Thanks for the tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 4 hours ago, spedwig said: Didn't realize I could select artboards using the move tool by clicking on the labels. I always used the artboard tool to... work with artboards. Thanks for the tip. You're welcome. That also worked in 1.6, I believe. I cannot comment on whether the behavior you described of using the Artboard Tool to copy artboards changed, as I never used it that way. However, the Designer Help still says you can move an artboard using the Artboard Tool: Quote To reposition an artboard: Do one of the following: Using the Artboard Tool or Move Tool, drag the selected artboard. Using the Move Tool, drag an artboard's label. With an artboard selected, on the Transform panel, adjust the X and/or Y settings. For that first bullet, the Move Tool will drag an artboard just by clicking in it and dragging. The Artboard Tool won't, as you mentioned. It only works if you click on the Artboard's label. So I suspect something is not working correctly, because if clicking on the artboard label were required then the Artboard Tool should be listed in the second bullet, instead. Either the behavior has changed intentionally, but the Help didn't get updated. Or the Help is correct and there's a bug in 1.7 and the dragging should work. It could be an intentional change to allow you to draw a new artboard on top of (but not contained within) an old artboard, I suppose. But the Help should still be updated, if that's the case. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted July 10, 2019 Staff Share Posted July 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: So I suspect something is not working correctly, because if clicking on the artboard label were required then the Artboard Tool should be listed in the second bullet, instead. Either the behavior has changed intentionally, but the Help didn't get updated. Or the Help is correct and there's a bug in 1.7 and the dragging should work. Thanks for letting us know, I'm not currently certain if this change was intentional or if the help file hasn't been updated so I'll get this logged to be investigated walt.farrell 1 Quote Please note - I am currently out of the office for a short while whilst recovering from surgery (nothing serious!), therefore will not be available on the Forums during this time. Should you require a response from the team in a thread I have previously replied in - please Create a New Thread and our team will be sure to reply as soon as possible. Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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