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I am designing a book that will be spiral-bound and therefore loose-leaf printed. Consequently the print PDF needs to be exported to 'All pages' (instead of spreads). 

When I set the inner bleed in the document settings and then export the PDF to all pages the inner bleed on the pages ends up being the page content of the facing page. If I have e.g. an image that goes all the way to the spine I have to stretch that image into the facing page in order to create an inner bleed for that page.

I need to be able to seperate the spread in order to create proper bleed for the pages … in inDesign this known as 'Allow Document Pages to Shuffle'. Have I missed something in Publisher or is this indeed not possible in the current version?

I have attached an image to illustrate the issue.

 

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Ok, I have found a workaround  for the issue:

Design the book as normal and include the bleed area across the spine for all images/objects (like in the 2nd example above). Before exporting the print file open the Document Settings and untick Facing Pages. Left/right master page properties remain intact. The only issue were images that are going across both pages of a spread – they only appear on one of the two pages after the change and you will have to copy them and paste onto the other page. I hope that makes sense.

Nevertheless, I think the function to 'allow pages to shuffle' and to seperate a spread for loose-leaf printing should be addressed in a future update of Publisher.

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When setting up for spiral bound or coil bound books you should not work in spreads for this very reason. Spreads is set for saddle stitch books. Sure you can do similar things with images crossing the spread, but it will not be unified and joined like it would be in a saddle stitch book.

I would start in spreads if you have a lot of images that cross from page to page and then go back to single pages when you are done and adjust bleeds accordingly. If you do not have images crossing a spread then the simple solution is to work in single pages with your bleed margins set properly. Standard for N. America would be .125".

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On 7/10/2019 at 8:26 AM, Satta said:

Ok, I have found a workaround  for the issue:

Design the book as normal and include the bleed area across the spine for all images/objects (like in the 2nd example above). Before exporting the print file open the Document Settings and untick Facing Pages. Left/right master page properties remain intact. The only issue were images that are going across both pages of a spread – they only appear on one of the two pages after the change and you will have to copy them and paste onto the other page. I hope that makes sense.

Nevertheless, I think the function to 'allow pages to shuffle' and to seperate a spread for loose-leaf printing should be addressed in a future update of Publisher.

Thank you Satta! This was the most helpful post I have found for this issue. I also have a book for an online print company that requires the PDF file to have single pages with bleed around each page. The problem is that their software doesn't recognize a left hand or right hand page (for imposition) and therefore centres each one leaving a gap in the gutter and the outer edge. Argh.

"Allow pages to shuffle" may help if there it can extend the image on the inside bleed which is what printers seem to want for their software.

So, I followed your advice and made a new document with single pages. I agree that the spreads that have an image running over 2 pages are tricky as they have to be the exact same size and positioned carefully so they line up when printed.

Thanks again for figuring this out for us. You're a star!

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