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I am just changing over from CorelDraw to Affinity but have a query on using the inner shadow on Affinity Designer on Windows 10

I have a light grey coloured circle & use the inner shadow (black) & all is good (example a)

But if i then add a thickish white outline to the circle the outline isn't actually white!  It becomes grey as the inner shadow appears to sit on top of the white outline. (example b)

Is there anyway to make the shadow sit UNDER the outline so it looks like example c?   ...which is just two circles, one circle with a white border on top of another one with an inner glow

Best regards

Pete

 

Example a.jpg

Example b.jpg

Example c.jpg

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Try place/alignment Outline outside. 

 

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2 hours ago, Gigatronix Pete said:

It becomes grey as the inner shadow appears to sit on top of the white outline.

This is strange, what version do you have? In the latest Win version, Outline is always above the shadow, even if it has reduced opacity.

This is a bit confusing in itself because it does not match the order of functions/effects in the fx panel.

For dev: what is the order of the effects?

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1 hour ago, R C-R said:

Something like this?

Yes.

17 hours ago, Pšenda said:

Try place/alignment Outline outside. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Pšenda said:
  17 hours ago, Pšenda said:

Try place/alignment Outline outside. 

That, plus appropriate blend modes & opacities, of course.

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9 minutes ago, R C-R said:

That, plus appropriate blend modes & opacities, of course.

Why? There is no need to do anything except the appropriate reduction of the object size - the inner shadow can remain the same. I suppose picture c) was just illustrative of what OP wants to achieve - pure white outline + inner shadow.

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Hi Gigatronix Pete :)

20 hours ago, Gigatronix Pete said:

But if i then add a thickish white outline to the circle the outline isn't actually white

How are you adding the outline please, are you using the fx outline option, or simply applying a stroke to the object?

If you're applying a stroke you can change the blend mode of the inner shadow to overlay and you'll find it no longer affects the stroke, however the shadow will not be as strong as it was using the multiply blendmode.

If you're applying it using the fx outline option then the blend mode can be left as default (multiply) for the inner shadow and you can align the outline to outside and you should find the outline is not affected. I've attached a sample document below - I hope this helps!

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3 hours ago, Pšenda said:

Why? There is no need to do anything except the appropriate reduction of the object size - the inner shadow can remain the same.

Since the OP asked if there was any way to make it look like the C example, I wanted to match that as closely as I could. I mentioned blend modes because at least on my Mac, the layer effect blend modes are 'sticky' (they retain the last mode I used), so it does make a difference for me if one is still set inappropriately to match the example C of the OP.   For the same reason, I set opacities, radii, etc. to match the C example as closely as I could.

I am sorry if there was any misunderstanding about that.

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