Gigatronix Pete Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I am just changing over from CorelDraw to Affinity but have a query on using the inner shadow on Affinity Designer on Windows 10 I have a light grey coloured circle & use the inner shadow (black) & all is good (example a) But if i then add a thickish white outline to the circle the outline isn't actually white! It becomes grey as the inner shadow appears to sit on top of the white outline. (example b) Is there anyway to make the shadow sit UNDER the outline so it looks like example c? ...which is just two circles, one circle with a white border on top of another one with an inner glow Best regards Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Try place/alignment Outline outside. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Gigatronix Pete said: It becomes grey as the inner shadow appears to sit on top of the white outline. This is strange, what version do you have? In the latest Win version, Outline is always above the shadow, even if it has reduced opacity. This is a bit confusing in itself because it does not match the order of functions/effects in the fx panel. For dev: what is the order of the effects? Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Something like this? Circle FX.afdesign Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 hour ago, R C-R said: Something like this? Yes. 17 hours ago, Pšenda said: Try place/alignment Outline outside. Gigatronix Pete 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Pšenda said: 17 hours ago, Pšenda said: Try place/alignment Outline outside. That, plus appropriate blend modes & opacities, of course. Gigatronix Pete 1 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, R C-R said: That, plus appropriate blend modes & opacities, of course. Why? There is no need to do anything except the appropriate reduction of the object size - the inner shadow can remain the same. I suppose picture c) was just illustrative of what OP wants to achieve - pure white outline + inner shadow. Gigatronix Pete 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted July 9, 2019 Staff Share Posted July 9, 2019 Hi Gigatronix Pete 20 hours ago, Gigatronix Pete said: But if i then add a thickish white outline to the circle the outline isn't actually white! How are you adding the outline please, are you using the fx outline option, or simply applying a stroke to the object? If you're applying a stroke you can change the blend mode of the inner shadow to overlay and you'll find it no longer affects the stroke, however the shadow will not be as strong as it was using the multiply blendmode. If you're applying it using the fx outline option then the blend mode can be left as default (multiply) for the inner shadow and you can align the outline to outside and you should find the outline is not affected. I've attached a sample document below - I hope this helps! R C-R & Psenda, we all appreciate your help here on the forums, please keep this thread civil. inner shadow & outline.afdesign Gigatronix Pete 1 Quote Please note - I am currently out of the office for a short while whilst recovering from surgery (nothing serious!), therefore will not be available on the Forums during this time. Should you require a response from the team in a thread I have previously replied in - please Create a New Thread and our team will be sure to reply as soon as possible. Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigatronix Pete Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 Hello guys Thanks very much for getting back to me & I was using the fx option Dan & yep your answer solves my problem ...thank you Best regards Pete Dan C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Pšenda said: Why? There is no need to do anything except the appropriate reduction of the object size - the inner shadow can remain the same. Since the OP asked if there was any way to make it look like the C example, I wanted to match that as closely as I could. I mentioned blend modes because at least on my Mac, the layer effect blend modes are 'sticky' (they retain the last mode I used), so it does make a difference for me if one is still set inappropriately to match the example C of the OP. For the same reason, I set opacities, radii, etc. to match the C example as closely as I could. I am sorry if there was any misunderstanding about that. Dan C 1 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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