SteveB523 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, Andy Duffy said: !!!!!! UPDATE.!!!!!! I just thought I should reboot and try again and it works!!! Just for info, before I rebooted, I set photos to NOT use the retail version of the extensions (leaving only the beta ones) and tested again which did fail. So am not sure if it was just the reboot or the change to extensions and the reboot that fixed it After I installed the Beta, both sets of extensions showed up when I clicked on the ... button in Photos. The Beta extensions weren’t identified as such, but they were the second set, which makes sense since I installed the Beta after the production version. So it is possible to keep both sets of extensions, which might come in handy if there are other problems in the beta. Did you try the place command once you had a picture open, and did it work? Andy Duffy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave123 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I don't know if this is related to this problem but I've been unable to edit photos with Affinity from the MacOS Photos app. I consistently get the "Unable to Save Changes" error as noted in the below screenshot. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzypole Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Hi Dave, that is the problem, that this thread is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Dave123 said: I don't know if this is related to this problem but I've been unable to edit photos with Affinity from the MacOS Photos app. I consistently get the "Unable to Save Changes" error as noted in the below screenshot. Any ideas? Dave just make your edits, File>Share>iMsg yourself and save from iMessage. This is my workaround unless I export to file to a folder on SSD. It may take time, but they will get it fixed. Quote Cecil iMac Retina 5K, 27”, 2019. 3.6 GHz Intel Core 9, 40 GB Memory DDR4, Radeon Pro 580X 8 GB, macOS,iPad Pro iPadOS Continuous improvement is better than delayed perfection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB523 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, Cecil said: Dave just make your edits, File>Share>iMsg yourself and save from iMessage. This is my workaround unless I export to file to a folder on SSD. It may take time, but they will get it fixed. On my Mac running Catalina, it is still possible to save to Apple Photos directly on the File/Share menu item - the same way you would send it to yourself with iMessage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted January 13, 2020 Staff Share Posted January 13, 2020 Hi Dave123, Welcome to Affinity Forums I'm assuming you are using Affinity Photo 1.7.3. If so, this is a known issue that's being looked at in Affinity Photo 1.8 Customer Beta. If you are working exclusively with RAW files it may work fine for you already (1.8 Customer Beta). If using other files types there's still a few known issues we are looking into. jeffnles1 1 Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Duffy Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 8:03 PM, SteveB523 said: On my Mac running Catalina, it is still possible to save to Apple Photos directly on the File/Share menu item - the same way you would send it to yourself with iMessage. Hi Steve I'll check when I get home. My workflow is to use Photos to acquire the images from my camera, that way I have a copy of them on my laptop and let them sync to iCloud so I have a backup copy. I then use the extensions in photos to "Edit in Affinity Photo", make my edits and then save and close the file in Affinity and then it drops me back to photos where I can commit the save back to photos. This was the bit that broke for me, but after installing the beta and disabling the older extensions (and a reboot) it all came good. I do then also take a copy of my photos library as an additional backup but that is getting off topic. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, Andy Duffy said: disabling the older extensions What extensions did you have to delete and may I inquire as to why? Quote Cecil iMac Retina 5K, 27”, 2019. 3.6 GHz Intel Core 9, 40 GB Memory DDR4, Radeon Pro 580X 8 GB, macOS,iPad Pro iPadOS Continuous improvement is better than delayed perfection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted January 13, 2020 Staff Share Posted January 13, 2020 Hi Cecil, Andy was referring to the "older" Affinity Photo 1.7.3 extensions. If you install the Customer Beta, a new set of extensions is installed as well. To prevent them from conflicting with the ones from 1.7.3 while testing is advisable to disable them. This can be done in the macOS System Preferences, Extensions section: uncheck all regular Affinity Photo extensions (that belong to the 1.7.3 version) and enable the Affinity Photo Beta ones. See screenshot below for reference: Andy Duffy 1 Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyA Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Hi, using the latest beta, I've disabled the extensions for the retail version and restarted. The Edit in Affinity option works as a round trip (after clicking Develop, saving the changes and closing the file) albeit it gives me a warning about exceeding file size and flattening the file. However the Affinity Develop option still gives the familar "Unable to edit with Affinity Develop" "An unexpected error occurred" error. I haven't tried other extensions yet. This is on a MacBook Pro and iMac. Is the Affinity Develop roundtrip working for others? PS the right click on thumbnail "edit with" is also not working for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB523 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, AndyA said: Hi, using the latest beta, I've disabled the extensions for the retail version and restarted. The Edit in Affinity option works as a round trip (after clicking Develop, saving the changes and closing the file) albeit it gives me a warning about exceeding file size and flattening the file. However the Affinity Develop option still gives the familar "Unable to edit with Affinity Develop" "An unexpected error occurred" error. I haven't tried other extensions yet. This is on a MacBook Pro and iMac. Is the Affinity Develop roundtrip working for others? PS the right click on thumbnail "edit with" is also not working for me Andy - try Document/Flatten before you a save and Quit in the Extension approach (“the Affinity Develop option). If I don’t do that, it gives me the error message; if I flatten it first, it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyA Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 53 minutes ago, SteveB523 said: Andy - try Document/Flatten before you a save and Quit in the Extension approach (“the Affinity Develop option). If I don’t do that, it gives me the error message; if I flatten it first, it works. Steve, thanks for the suggestion but I don't have document/flatten when I open in the Affinity Develop extension. The Affinity app is opened within Photos and I only have the Photos menus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 5 hours ago, MEB said: Hi Cecil, Andy was referring to the "older" Affinity Photo 1.7.3 extensions. If you install the Customer Beta, a new set of extensions is installed as well. To prevent them from conflicting with the ones from 1.7.3 is advisable to disable them. This can be done in the macOS System Preferences, Extensions section: uncheck all regular Affinity Photo extensions (that belong to the 1.7.3 version) and enable the Affinity Photo Beta ones. See screenshot below for reference: Thanks, as I never seen it discussed to disable the retail version extension. I guess if One uses both, it’s back and forth. Quote Cecil iMac Retina 5K, 27”, 2019. 3.6 GHz Intel Core 9, 40 GB Memory DDR4, Radeon Pro 580X 8 GB, macOS,iPad Pro iPadOS Continuous improvement is better than delayed perfection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB523 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Cecil - since the Beta installs along side the production version, I assumed you could keep both sets of extensions, and I have, at least so far. I've been able to switch back and forth, although admittedly, I've only done it a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted January 14, 2020 Staff Share Posted January 14, 2020 Disabling the extensions helps to prevents mistakes/conflicts while testing. They should work correctly if both are enabled but it's advisable not doing so. Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGB Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 After installing the 1.8.0.163 beta I can report following: Extension "Develop" works for jpeg, but not for RAW to save changes to Apple Photos Extension "Edit in Affinity Photo" works for RAW but not for jpeg to save changes back to Apple Photo's. I didn't test the other extensions as they where fine in version 1.7.3. (Will try those perhaps another time). Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB523 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, MacGB said: After installing the 1.8.0.163 beta I can report following: Extension "Develop" works for jpeg, but not for RAW to save changes to Apple Photos Extension "Edit in Affinity Photo" works for RAW but not for jpeg to save changes back to Apple Photo's. I didn't test the other extensions as they where fine in version 1.7.3. (Will try those perhaps another time). Cheers Try Document/Flatten after using the “Edit in Affinity Photo” extension before saving; that works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGB Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 @SteveB523 Thanks for your response. Well I did try that to no avail, However I took another jpeg made one adjustment, and that went fine after Flatten. So I experimented a little more, making more than one adjustment to that same jpeg , resulting in being not able to save back. Took a different jpeg (from another camera) did the same: multiple edits, not able to save back. So I did another experiment. Open a RAW make multiple adjustments in Develop mode. Followed by multiple adjustments in the Photo Persona that went ok. So still in beta and some work to do for the team I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyA Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, SteveB523 said: Try Document/Flatten after using the “Edit in Affinity Photo” extension before saving; that works for me. Using "Edit in Affinity Photo" extension with a RAW file I still get the warning even if I flatten the file before closing it (edit the RAW, develop, flatten - close - save). Its a 50MB Fuji RAF file. Not sure if I'm losing anything by just clicking Save? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyA Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 3 hours ago, MacGB said: Extension "Develop" works for jpeg, but not for RAW to save changes to Apple Photos I agree, Develop is not working for RAW, which presumably is its main purpose SteveB523 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB523 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, AndyA said: I agree, Develop is not working for RAW, which presumably is its main purpose I also agree; getting the same error message. What is supposed to happen? Should the RAW file get replaced with a new Raw file? Or should it replace the Raw file with a JPEG with the changes made? I'm confused now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGB Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 16 hours ago, SteveB523 said: What is supposed to happen? Should the RAW file get replaced with a new Raw file? Or should it replace the Raw file with a JPEG with the changes made? I'm confused now. As far as I understand from the API from Photo's The RAW wil be replaced as a jpeg with the changes. I am not sure about the history though. When I re-open with Affinity extension, it always opens the original RAW, without adjustments. There are extensions that keep the history (depends though, it's a rather complex story).So they start with the adjusted photo. This might be of interest to understand how Apple Photo's can interact. https://tidbits.com/2019/06/14/the-ins-and-outs-of-non-destructive-editing-in-photos-for-mac-and-ios/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryb Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 On 1/14/2020 at 5:54 PM, MacGB said: After installing the 1.8.0.163 beta I can report following: ... Extension "Edit in Affinity Photo" works for RAW but not for jpeg to save changes back to Apple Photo's.... so this problem STILL has not been fixed??? Are we serious now??.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGB Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Well on the positive side: It works for RAW, which it didn’t, the extension develop works for jpeg. That’s an improvement also. It’s still a beta release for which Affinity indicates they are still working on a solution because it hasn’t been fixed in this beta. so I keep my hopes up. SteveB523 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryb Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 any news on the release of the official AP version that will fix the saving back into Mac OS Photos problem that has been known for EIGHT MONTHS now??... Tullywhistles, PeWo and Bitman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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