Section Manager…

[ronnyb]

It would be beneficial to have the Section Manager… command appear as a button next to Document Setup… and Spread Setup… when the Arrow tool is selected. I would consider renaming it Section Setup… to keep it in line with the others.

I would consider getting rid of Preferences… as Preferences applies to the app and not the Document, and only clutters interface.

Thanks for the excellent work you do and your consideration.

[Guest]

Makes pretty much sense to me, Ronny. 

[dominik]

10 hours ago, ronnyb said:

It would be beneficial to have the Section Manager… command appear as a button next to Document Setup… and Spread Setup… when the Arrow tool is selected. I would consider renaming it Section Setup… to keep it in line with the others.

I would consider getting rid of Preferences… as Preferences applies to the app and not the Document, and only clutters interface.

Thanks for the excellent work you do and your consideration.

Hi @ronnyb,

are you aware that the section manager is available as an icon in the pages panel? Since the pages panel is almost always visible this should be a good shortcut. It's just not next to 'Document Setup' but below 

 

d.

[Guest]

That’s true, but for my part, I never really understood why the Preferences … button should be on the context toolbar. To my mind, the context toolbar is a part of the UI hosting document-related options, not app-related ones. Hmm. 

[ronnyb]

15 hours ago, dominik said:

Hi @ronnyb,

are you aware that the section manager is available as an icon in the pages panel? Since the pages panel is almost always visible this should be a good shortcut. It's just not next to 'Document Setup' but below 

 

d.

 

13 hours ago, A_B_C said:

That’s true, but for my part, I never really understood why the Preferences … button should be on the context toolbar. To my mind, the context toolbar is a part of the UI hosting document-related options, not app-related ones. Hmm. 

Thanks @dominik I didn’t know its a tiny icon!

The context toolbar seems like a better place in my mind in lieu of Preferences button as @A_B_C mentions... 

[fde101]

Also, none of these menu commands (or buttons) should have ellipses on the end.  Their sole purpose is to open a window, and they don't need additional information to do that.

[ronnyb]

5 hours ago, fde101 said:

Also, none of these menu commands (or buttons) should have ellipses on the end.  Their sole purpose is to open a window, and they don't need additional information to do that.

I believe per Apple's GUI guidelines, any command/button which opens up a pop-up window/panel for user input (vs. executing a command instantly, ie Cut, Copy, Paste, Group, etc) requires an ellipsis after it's name...

[fde101]

17 minutes ago, ronnyb said:

any command/button which opens up a pop-up window/panel for user input

Interesting... the guidelines for buttons are different from those for menu items.  I stand corrected.  The menu items for these should NOT have the ellipses, but the buttons apparently should.

[ronnyb]

9 minutes ago, fde101 said:

Interesting... the guidelines for buttons are different from those for menu items.  I stand corrected.  The menu items for these should NOT have the ellipses, but the buttons apparently should.

Menu items too...

[fde101]

1 minute ago, ronnyb said:

Menu items too...

No.

Menu items should only have ellipses when they require additional information to complete the action.  Opening a window IS the action performed by those menu items - they don't need additional information to do that, so they should not have ellipses.