RickyO Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 For those of us who have been testing the beta, when we receive the 1.7 version on Wednesday, how should we install it on Windows? I.e. do we do an uninstall of the beta followed by an install of 1.7; or, do we just install 1.7 over the top of the beta?? Quote RickyOAPh, ADe and APu user New User as of Mar, 2018 (Still stumbling along given too many directions at any given moment) Windows10 platform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Neither. You install alongside the beta, if it works like all the other Affinity applications work. RickyO 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyO Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 Thanks Walt. I'm just trying to figure out any advantages to retaining the beta..... Quote RickyOAPh, ADe and APu user New User as of Mar, 2018 (Still stumbling along given too many directions at any given moment) Windows10 platform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aammppaa Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, RickyO said: I'm just trying to figure out any advantages to retaining the beta There will almost certainly be new betas, perhaps quite quickly to fix any urgent bugs - this is exactly what happened with Designer / Photo going from 1.7 to 1.7.1 in time for the Publisher release. So if you want to continue testing beta versions, they will install over old Betas and along side the release version. But it would do no harm to uninstall the beta either! Quote Win10 Home x64 | AMD Ryzen 7 2700X @ 3.7GHz | 48 GB RAM | 1TB SSD | nVidia GTX 1660 | Wacom Intuos Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 3 hours ago, RickyO said: I'm just trying to figure out any advantages to retaining the beta..... When there's a new beta, as Aammppaa mentioned, if you've retained the old one your old settings from the prior beta will probably remain in place. Edit: Actually, that may not be true. The new beta will be a Customer Beta, not a Public Beta as the current one is. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyO Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: When there's a new beta, as Aammppaa mentioned, if you've retained the old one your old settings from the prior beta will probably remain in place. Edit: Actually, that may not be true. The new beta will be a Customer Beta, not a Public Beta as the current one is. Thanks. But with the release tomorrow, aren't the betas history? It should be the mark of moving from beta to final. No? Quote RickyOAPh, ADe and APu user New User as of Mar, 2018 (Still stumbling along given too many directions at any given moment) Windows10 platform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyO Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Aammppaa said: There will almost certainly be new betas, perhaps quite quickly to fix any urgent bugs - this is exactly what happened with Designer / Photo going from 1.7 to 1.7.1 in time for the Publisher release. So if you want to continue testing beta versions, they will install over old Betas and along side the release version. But it would do no harm to uninstall the beta either! Thanks again. Quote RickyOAPh, ADe and APu user New User as of Mar, 2018 (Still stumbling along given too many directions at any given moment) Windows10 platform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyO Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, walt.farrell said: When there's a new beta, as Aammppaa mentioned, if you've retained the old one your old settings from the prior beta will probably remain in place. Edit: Actually, that may not be true. The new beta will be a Customer Beta, not a Public Beta as the current one is. Walt, I appreciate your effort. Unfortunately, I'm even more confused. Forty years in IT and dev, and the usage of the term beta over the years was consistent and quite different from what Serif is using. But that's on me. (We always used alpha, followed by beta, and then onto a final release; with all thereafter being updates, whether minor or major. This system you're describing is new to me, and seems a bit complicated: customer beta, public beta, co-existence of beta with final release versions. Is it just me, or, .....). Quote RickyOAPh, ADe and APu user New User as of Mar, 2018 (Still stumbling along given too many directions at any given moment) Windows10 platform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac_heibu Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 When Publisher is released, there will be subsequent update releases, which will be released as a „beta“ release before being shipped to the end user. This is not really unusual. Adobe works the same way, Apple with its macOS updates too, and, and, and … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyO Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 Thanks. Quote RickyOAPh, ADe and APu user New User as of Mar, 2018 (Still stumbling along given too many directions at any given moment) Windows10 platform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac_heibu Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 … the difference to other software companies is, that the developer team seems to listen to the beta testers very intensely. garrettm30 and Guyon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyO Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 Seems overly complicated, especially when put on a timeline. Too easy to have parallel, out-of-sync versions and dev tracks. Unnecessary. Just my experience. Quote RickyOAPh, ADe and APu user New User as of Mar, 2018 (Still stumbling along given too many directions at any given moment) Windows10 platform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac_heibu Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Why that? Would you prefer to have no beta release between major editions? If yes, why don‘t you simply renounce on downloading them? You are not forced to do so. And: Don‘t you think, it is better to expand the base of testing even of dot releases? I think this increases the possibilities of spotting bugs and inconsistencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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