toasties Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 As a developer, I love how you can now copy text (and get various attributes) directly within the Export Persona without having to switch back to Designer Persona. The one little thing that seems to be missing is the ability to use a keyboard shortcut (Ctrl + A) to select all the text for copying. This is possible withing Design Persona but not the Export Persona. Is this just a missing function or a bug? Are you planning to add this in soon? I'm using AD 1.7.0.367 on windows. Thanks, R C-R 1 Quote
R C-R Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 3 hours ago, toasties said: ... I love how you can now copy text (and get various attributes) directly within the Export Persona without having to switch back to Designer Persona. Wow! I never realized this was possible until you mentioned it! Basically, it seems to be a hidden way to switch to the Frame or Artistic Text Tool, activated by double-clicking in an existing text block with the Slice Selection Tool, so I think that -- assuming it is not a bug -- both of those tools should be available on the Tools panel. As it is, once either tool is activated, not only does the context toolbar show all the usual text attributes (although the Character & Paragraph buttons don't work), but also either tool can be used to create new frame or art text blocks too, so in almost every respect these are just like the text tools available in the Designer Persona. As for a 'select all' keyboard shortcut, the usual one shown on the Select menu (CMD+A on Mac; so I assume Ctrl+A for Windows) does work for me in the usual way: with nothing selected it selects all layers, whether a text block or not; & with text selected in a text block, it selects all the text in that block. Does that not work for you? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Old Bruce Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 Select all works here, but I have to say I bet this is treated as a bug. Granted it is a Feature-like bug. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
toasties Posted June 17, 2019 Author Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, R C-R said: Wow! I never realized this was possible until you mentioned it! Basically, it seems to be a hidden way to switch to the Frame or Artistic Text Tool, activated by double-clicking in an existing text block with the Slice Selection Tool, so I think that -- assuming it is not a bug -- both of those tools should be available on the Tools panel. As it is, once either tool is activated, not only does the context toolbar show all the usual text attributes (although the Character & Paragraph buttons don't work), but also either tool can be used to create new frame or art text blocks too, so in almost every respect these are just like the text tools available in the Designer Persona. As for a 'select all' keyboard shortcut, the usual one shown on the Select menu (CMD+A on Mac; so I assume Ctrl+A for Windows) does work for me in the usual way: with nothing selected it selects all layers, whether a text block or not; & with text selected in a text block, it selects all the text in that block. Does that not work for you? Thanks for checking at your end. Yeah the keyboard shortcut does not work for me on Windows. Are you using a Mac presumably? Maybe it's a Windows issue? Quote
toasties Posted June 17, 2019 Author Posted June 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: Select all works here, but I have to say I bet this is treated as a bug. Granted it is a Feature-like bug. Are you using a Mac too Old Bruce? Quote
Old Bruce Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 Yes, as per my signature. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
toasties Posted June 17, 2019 Author Posted June 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: Yes, as per my signature. Ahh. The signatures don't show on the mob site. Quote
R C-R Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Old Bruce said: Select all works here, but I have to say I bet this is treated as a bug. Granted it is a Feature-like bug. I think you are probably right about that but I think it should not be treated as such & instead the two text tools should be added to the Export Persona's Tools panel because: Most of the 'under the hood' code seems to be there already It is a useful feature @toasties: as you have probably already guessed, I am using a Mac (& the info is in my signature, too). Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
toasties Posted June 17, 2019 Author Posted June 17, 2019 Yes, thanks @R C-R . I'm out of office using the mobile site so missing all the bells and whistles of the forum Is this a good/best place for this to be spotted by someone at serif and apply a fix do we think? Quote
Old Bruce Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 7 hours ago, toasties said: I'm using AD 1.7.0.367 on windows. Just so I am clear toasties, you are on Windows and are you still not seeing this (Select All keyboard shortcut) in the latest 1.7.1 version? If it is missing in the latest I would report it in the Windows bug section for Designer (and or Photo) https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/forum/74-designer-bugs-found-on-windows/ Originally you asked a question and we think we may have found a bug on windows. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
walt.farrell Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 On Windows, in 1.7.1.404, there is no shortcut for Select All in the Export Persona that I can see. And Ctrl+A does not work. I suspect it's a bug that it works on Mac. It may even be a bug that (on both OSes) double-clicking on a Text Frame with the Move Tool allows editing at all. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5
toasties Posted June 17, 2019 Author Posted June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: On Windows, in 1.7.1.404, there is no shortcut for Select All in the Export Persona that I can see. And Ctrl+A does not work. I suspect it's a bug that it works on Mac. It may even be a bug that (on both OSes) double-clicking on a Text Frame with the Move Tool allows editing at all. Thanks for checking this on Windows @walt.farrell with the latest build. I'm away from my computer atm so cannot update and check. I'll report it as a bug probably tomorrow @Old Bruce. Quote
R C-R Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: On Windows, in 1.7.1.404, there is no shortcut for Select All in the Export Persona that I can see. And Ctrl+A does not work. I suspect it's a bug that it works on Mac. Why do you suspect it is a bug on Macs? CMD+A as a keyboard shortcut for select all is something most Mac apps implement & is one of the standard shortcuts many Mac users learn. After the 'big four' of CMD+C for copy, CMD+X for cut, CMD+V for paste, & CMD+Z for undo, it is probably one of the most used. 14 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: It may even be a bug that (on both OSes) double-clicking on a Text Frame with the Move Tool allows editing at all. I suspect you may be right about that, but CMD+A to select all layers in the Export Persona (as opposed to selecting all of the text in a text block when the insertion cursor is visible in one of them) is not the same thing. It appears on the Select menu with that shortcut if assigned, as do the related shortcuts for Deselect, Select Next, & Select Previous. All of them work as expected in the Export Persona, just as they do in the Designer Persona (& the Draw Persona in the 1.6 versions as well). Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Old Bruce Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 I am thinking this is all going to go away because I can ADD text once I have the text caret available, I can alter everything on the page by using the Slice Selection Tool and double clicking anything. Colours, sizes, width of lines and fills getting changed. Objects being moved about. Do we really think that that should be possible in the Export Persona? Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
R C-R Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: I am thinking this is all going to go away because I can ADD text once I have the text caret available, I can alter everything on the page by using the Slice Selection Tool and double clicking anything. I think you are right about everything except Select All, the complementary Deselect, the select next & previous items; & the keyboard shortcuts for them. If nothing else, it is useful to be able to use these shortcuts when creating Slices from layers. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
walt.farrell Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, R C-R said: but CMD+A to select all layers in the Export Persona (as opposed to selecting all of the text in a text block when the insertion cursor is visible in one of them) is not the same thing. It appears on the Select menu with that shortcut if assigned, as do the related shortcuts for Deselect, Select Next, & Select Previous. All of them work as expected in the Export Persona, just as they do in the Designer Persona (& the Draw Persona in the 1.6 versions as well). You have a Select menu on Mac in the Export Persona? Windows doesn't. And without a Select menu, none of those shortcuts should work, in my opinion. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5
R C-R Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: You have a Select menu on Mac in the Export Persona? Yes. EDIT: Same thing in Affinity Photo. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
walt.farrell Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, R C-R said: Yes. Interesting. Perhaps you should report that as a bug (Actually, I will report the lack of Select as a bug on Windows, and let Serif decide which is broken ) Edit: Also on Photo. Reported: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/89307-select-missing-from-designers-menu-in-export-persona-on-windows/ R C-R 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5
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