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When using the "inpainting" option with fill, choosing a colour has no effect?


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I was using the "Fill" option under Edit.  It shows options down the left side, one of which is "Inpainting".  Decided to experiment, thinking that it would be useful.  Despite many experiments, I could not work out what it does.  After all, for inpainting all you need is a new pixel layer and identify that effects are shown on the layer below.  Then, I thought that I have the answer, you choose a colour and the inpainting uses that colour as a base, or influence.  However, I chose a bright blue and it had no effect at all.  Next, I tried to google an answer - but no result that I could find.

So, I pronounce myself defeated - please what is the purpose of the Inpainting option in Fill??

 

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Inpainting is another method to clone out undesirable objects, it's not a painting tool in the same vane as the brush tool, i.e. you don't pick a colour and paint with that colour. 
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The inpainting option in Edit > Fill is a sort of automated alternative to using the Inpainting brush.

However, since inpainting involves using other parts of the image as a reference, it won't have an effect (or at least not one that I can see) unless there is a pixel ('marching ants') marquee selection to apply it to. That uses the area surrounding the pixel selection as a replacement reference.

So for example, to see how it works, try making a smallish elliptical marquee selection in the middle of a pixel layer & then going to Edit > Fill & select Inpainting. You may need to wait a bit for the results to appear but they should be obvious.

BTW, the Edit > Inpaint item in the section below the Fill... one, works the same way but slightly more helpfully is greyed out unless there is a marquee selection. It also shows a progress bar when needed, unlike the  Edit > Fill version.

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3 hours ago, firstdefence said:

Inpainting is another method to clone out undesirable objects, it's not a painting tool in the same vane as the brush tool, i.e. you don't pick a colour and paint with that colour. 
 

 

 
 

Hi First Defence, have you taken any trouble at all to read my post?  I have used the inpainting tool a hundred times and know what it can do.  I highlighted my question, which is "what is the purpose of the Inpainting option in Fill"?  

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58 minutes ago, R C-R said:

The inpainting option in Edit > Fill is a sort of automated alternative to using the Inpainting brush.

However, since inpainting involves using other parts of the image as a reference, it won't have an effect (or at least not one that I can see) unless there is a pixel ('marching ants') marquee selection to apply it to. That uses the area surrounding the pixel selection as a replacement reference.

So for example, to see how it works, try making a smallish elliptical marquee selection in the middle of a pixel layer & then going to Edit > Fill & select Inpainting. You may need to wait a bit for the results to appear but they should be obvious.

BTW, the Edit > Inpaint item in the section below the Fill... one, works the same way but slightly more helpfully is greyed out unless there is a marquee selection. It also shows a progress bar when needed, unlike the  Edit > Fill version.

 

Many thanks, RC-R, it is great to get the answer!  Doubly so, since you answered the actual question I was asking.  Is there some way to give you double thanks?  :):)

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11 minutes ago, Jaffa said:

Is there some way to give you double thanks?  :):)

The way I figure it, you have given me double thanks -- one for my post & the other in your last reply. No need for more than that or even for a single one. The only thing important to me is learning if something I suggested answered a question or helped solve an issue. That's the only way I know if I am helping anybody or not.

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