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Please provide templates, such as for a side fold greeting card, trifold flyer or brochure, recital program, and especially a newsletter. One blank template for each kind of publication is all I need, along with printer support to handle a side fold greeting card of four pages printed 4 up on a single sheet as I described elsewhere in the following post.

https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/89633-how-do-i-make-a-greeting-card-in-afpub/

From its earliest release, MS Publisher included many, many templates for all kinds of publications. Without templates for standard publications Affinity Publisher is no more than a toolbox for professionals and not a desktop publishing package for the rest of us who would normally be looking for publishing software in your price range and who need some examples to get started.


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6 hours ago, Granddaddy said:

Affinity Publisher is no more than a toolbox for professionals

Well, that is what it is intended to be...

 

6 hours ago, Granddaddy said:

templates for standard publications

Other professional applications tend not to have these either - QuarkXPress does not, for example.

 

6 hours ago, Granddaddy said:

a side fold greeting card of four pages printed 4 up on a single sheet

Wow, this reminds me of Print Shop on the Apple II series... with an ImageWriter II you could print in all of 7 colors using a 4-color ribbon.

Now we use printers that can print in full color to both sides of the paper.  One fold instead of two.  Add crop marks to show where to cut to the desired size, print on card stock, and you can make a much more professional-looking card without the extra fold.  Publisher can do all of this if your printer can (except cut and fold it for you).

If your printer can't print both sides, you could flip the paper over and send it back through to print the other side.  In this case, add bleed to the design...

 

6 hours ago, Granddaddy said:

trifold flyer

Create a document with a master page, in landscape format, do not use Facing Pages mode (leave that unchecked), create the document with 2 pages.

Switch to the master page and set guides at 1/3 and 2/3 of the way from whichever side of the page.

Switch back to the normal pages and you now have a blank trifold flyer.  On one page, the rightmost section is the front cover, the middle section the back, and the leftmost section is the page that is facing you on the right side when you open the first cover and still have the third part folded in.

On the other page, the leftmost section is the flip side of the front page (inside), the middle section is the (initially hidden) flip side of the back cover, and the rightmost section is the (initially hidden) flip side of the folded-in page.

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Thanks @fde101 for outlining how to make a trifold flyer.

See my post at 

 https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/89633-how-do-i-make-a-greeting-card-in-afpub/&do=findComment&comment=476342

for my thoughts about templates. AFPub beta testers requested templates more than a year ago. I assume beta testers are professionals who have need of the advanced capabilities of AFPub that I'll never need. At least some of them also want templates.

Also in that thread, @stokerg included an afpub file for producing a greeting card in the manner of MSPub. It requires a lot more manual effort than MSPub, but it is not difficult once you see the concept. MSPub does it as four pages which at print time are printed on one side of a single piece of paper in the appropriate locations and orientations. In AFPub it is made as four separate frames on one side of a single sheet of paper with two of the frames printed upside down.

You compared AFPub to QuarkExpress in the sense that neither provides templates. I remember looking at QuarkExpress in 1987 when it first came out. It did not seem appropriate for the needs of my group. We ended up using MS Publisher for newsletters, tutorial documents, and other printed matter. QuarkExpress still limits its market to publishing professionals, as reflected in its price of $975 for one year of upgrades and support.

AFPub at $50 can surely tap into the market of millions of people who are not publishing professionals but who can benefit from a publishing application. That's what happened with AFPhoto. It was not just for professionals wanting to escape Adobe but also for hobbyist and enthusiast photographers wanting something more powerful than the several amateur level photo editors, all of which cost considerably more than AFPhoto.

 


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I got a chuckle while searching for DTP software reviews and found this statement at

https://www.g2.com/categories/desktop-publishing

To qualify for inclusion in the Desktop Publishing category, a product must:

  • Provide templates for constructing layouts of publishable materials (e.g. newspapers, flyers)

That was the very first requirement. DTP software lacking templates will not be reviewed. The review site uses an interesting interactive grid to display the relative merits of different DTP applications.


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2 hours ago, Granddaddy said:

DTP software reviews and found this statement at

I saw that too...  quickly discredits that review site and gives me reason to move on.

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Why not make an app store? People can submit work and others can take it, and improve upon it. Tap into the resources of the community. 

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On 7/7/2019 at 10:53 AM, ALUVALIFE said:

People can submit work and others can take it, and improve upon it. Tap into the resources of the community. 

Those are not apps, and there are already app stores for all three platforms that the Affinity products are released on and it is available on those app stores.

There is no reason that starter documents could not be shared on the forum if anyone is interested in doing that.  If there is enough interest perhaps Serif would consider making a separate section of the forum dedicated to the sharing of user-created resources such as starter documents, templates (if/when this gets implemented), assets and the like?

 

In fact... they already have:

https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/forum/11-resources/

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I haven't purchased Affinity Publisher yet (I do own Designer), but I'd like to chime in and also say I'd also love templates.

I'm not a graphic designer and have only basic design skills. However, I like to create original greeting cards for friends and family and occasionally I like to create short newsletters and other small projects.

For the past few years, I have been using Swift Publisher by Belight Software for my needs. (Belight also has a program called Printworks that's slightly more advanced than Swift Publisher; I've tested the trial version.)

A great feature of both Swift Publisher and Printworks is that they come with lots (hundreds?) of free templates for all sorts of projects.

Belight's programs are definitely made for the average person and not design professionals. However, Swift Publisher and Printworks are limiting in some respects even for the casual user. For instance, their text wrapping features only allow for rectangular wrapping around images even if the images have a transparent background.

I tested the trial version of Affinity Publisher and liked it a lot. However, I haven't bought it yet because I'm not a designer and definitely could use some templates to get me started. If there were some good templates, I would replace Swift Publisher.

Anyway, I realize Affinity Publisher is geared towards design professionals who use InDesign, but I think Affinity Publisher would also appeal to non-professionals who use cheaper programs such as those by Belight. Affinity Designer costs only $20 more than Printworks yet has many, many more features. So I think you (Affinity) could attract more casual users with at least some templates.

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On 6/25/2019 at 7:27 PM, fde101 said:

quickly discredits that review site

What exactly 'quickly discredits that review site and gives you reason to move on '? .. can you be a bit more specific?

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1 hour ago, dot24 said:

What exactly 'quickly discredits that review site and gives you reason to move on '? .. can you be a bit more specific?

The fact that they consider the availability of templates to be a key factor in determining whether or not a program could be considered a desktop publishing application worthy of even being listed on their site.

QuarkXPress was THE professional desktop publishing application at one time and did not offer templates.  Including that as a criteria for a generic review of a desktop publishing application (as opposed to a review for such an application to meet a specific need or set of needs which may include the availability of templates) in my opinion discredits the review site.

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Anyone looking for templates & design items could do worse than buying Pageplus. There's quite a bit of stuff there and it could be exported to PDF & opened or placed in APub. Very cheap as well.


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28 minutes ago, MickRose said:

Anyone looking for templates & design items could do worse than buying Pageplus. There's quite a bit of stuff there and it could be exported to PDF & opened or placed in APub. Very cheap as well.

Be quick if you want to purchase it! There have been indications on CommunityPlus that Serif will stop selling it soon.

https://store.serif.com/buy/pageplus/


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