MmmMaarten Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 During configuration of shortcuts to use a Wacom dial to rotate canvas I found this issue: * In the settings shortcuts panel both left and right Alt-keys on the keyboard are displayed as 'Alt', so there is no way to see the difference between the two * But the actual keyboard shortcut is in reality indeed bound to the left OR the right Alt key. Looking in the interface it looks like both 'Rotate Left' and 'Rotate Right' are bound to the same shortcut (Alt+2), but in fact the first one is bound to AltLeft-2 and the second to AltRight+2. Affinity Photo knows this, because it doesn't show warning symbols to indicate a keyboard shortcut is already in use (it shows the regular clear-buttons): This is confusing and error-prone. It would be better if the interface shows AltRight and AltLeft instead for the alt-keys OR the software should treat both ALT-keys as the same (which I personally prefer and would expect). (I posted this in the Photo AND Designer bug forums too, because it's happening in all three programs. It's probably the same codebase, but just to be shure posted this in all three bug-forums) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Yes, I reported this, too. If you use left ALT it will show a warning triangle, if you use right one ALT -- the warning is not shown. All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmMaarten Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Petar Petrenko said: Yes, I reported this, too. If you use left ALT it will show a warning triangle, if you use right one ALT -- the warning is not shown. Thanks for your reaction @Petar Petrenko. The warning triangle shows for both left and right alt if there is a conflicting keystroke. So if you have two keystrokes set to for example altLeft+1 than you get to see the triangle. Also when you set two keystrokes to for example altRight+1. But if you set one keystroke to altLeft+1 and another keystroke to altRight+1 you don't see the warning signs, because in reality they are two different keystrokes; one with the left alt and one with the right alt being used. The thing here is that Designer happens to treat the Left alt as a different key than the Right alt, which is fine, but both keys are communicated to the user as just 'Alt', so 1) we, as users, don't know they are in fact different keys, and 2) We can't see if a keystroke uses the left Alt or the right Alt. So it's confusing and error prone. This would be solved if the interface communicates 'LeftAlt' or 'RightAlt', instead of just 'Alt'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmMaarten Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 @Petar Petrenko Yes, that's exactly what I wrote about in my posts above: you probably have one AltLeft+Return and one AltRight+Return, so they are technically two different keystrokes and so don't raise a conflict. So Affinity doesn't show you the warning triangles. Both alts in the keystrokes are being DISPLAYED as just 'Alt', so in the view Affinity doesn't make a distinction between the left and right alt. But 'underwater', technically, and when you actually press one of the keystrokes at operation, Designer DOES make that distinction while handling the keystrokes, because they function as two different keys, only we can't see it in this view. That's the whole point why I raised this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Gabe Posted June 14, 2019 Staff Share Posted June 14, 2019 Thanks for your help with this bug. We have now resolved the problem and will make the fix available in the next release of Affinity Publisher on your platform. MmmMaarten 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Is it going to show a warning triangle if there is a shortcut conflict? All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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