Mr Lucky Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Before upgrading to 1.7 I had a dark interface, but Affinity Photo still used the system light interface for the open or save finder window. But it seems in 1.7 the finder window is dark also. This is very bad news unless I can find the setting fix this is my eyesight is not great - I need dark in the Photo inr=erface but dark for the finder window is very difficult for me to find anything. Please how do I get it it the way it was before? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Lee D Posted June 7, 2019 Staff Share Posted June 7, 2019 This was actually an issue in 1.6 as with some dialogues the correct mode (light/dark) wasn't loading. This has been resolved in 1.7, so those dialogues now call the correct UI mode based on what is set in Preferences > User Interface, the mode of the dialogues can't be individually set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lucky Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 It was not an issue with 1.6, that's my whole point - it was working fine. Or is this a classic case of mending something that isn't broken? If someone wants a dark background for viewing the application they could do that. If they wanted a light background for viewing the finder windows they do that. Now the Affinity dark/light preference encroaches on the Mac viewing presences and very bad for useability, especially people with not perfect vision. So there is now a superfluous setting also, which is to set Affinity the same as the Mac system. What is the point if it does that anyway (changes the open/save finder window) when you set the Affinity preferences. Seems like someone hasn't thought this through and made changes just for the sake of fiddling with something that was fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 22 hours ago, Mr Lucky said: It was not an issue with 1.6, that's my whole point - it was working fine. It was not working correctly for Macs running Apple's dark mode, a new feature in macOS Mojave. Version 1.7 fixed that. So if you are running macOS Mojave, turn off dark mode in System Preferences > General & see if you get better results. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lucky Posted June 8, 2019 Author Share Posted June 8, 2019 This is the point. I have Mojave running in light mode, Affinity 1.7 in dark. But when I go to open a file in Affinity, the finder window is in dark instead of light as defined in Mojave system preferences. If I wanted it dark when browsing for files to open I would have set dark on the Mac. Sedu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedu Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 On 6/8/2019 at 10:28 AM, Mr Lucky said: This is the point. I have Mojave running in light mode, Affinity 1.7 in dark. But when I go to open a file in Affinity, the finder window is in dark instead of light as defined in Mojave system preferences. If I wanted it dark when browsing for files to open I would have set dark on the Mac. Hello, I have the same problem as Mr Lucky. I'm running Mojave in the light theme because it's more clearly to find files. In Photo, Publisher and Designer I would like to work with the dark UI because it has a better contrast for my work. Unfortunately it shows the open/save dialogue in the Affinity Settings choosen UI Color. The Affinity Color should'nt have any effect of my browser color! If i would like to use a dark open/save dialogue, I can choose it in my mac system settings. Mr Lucky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 In Windows it works the way you want it, but it seems pretty inconsistent - print dialog dark, printer properties light, ... If Affinity would use its own file-opening dialog (and others), it would also be dark. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 So not just me then either! I’m having the same issue; OS set to light mode but Finder window calls from Photo (1.7 & 1.7.1beta) and Designer (1.7) always display the resulting windows in Dark Mode. Quote macOS 10.15.7 | 15" Macbook Pro, 2017 | 4 Core i7 3.1GHz CPU | Radeon Pro 555 2GB GPU + Integrated Intel HD Graphics 630 1.536GB | 16GB RAM | Wacom Intuos4 M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friksel Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Pšenda said: In Windows it works the way you want it, but it seems pretty inconsistent - print dialog dark, printer properties light, ... If Affinity would use its own file-opening dialog (and others), it would also be dark. In Windows the print dialog is dark, because you're in Affinity and put Affinity in dark mode. But when the properties windows isn't generated by Affinity, but by your printer manufacturar, it's the driver on Windows providing that window. So if Windows is set to light, like it is normally, than the properties window is light. That's just the way it works on Windows. Nothing Serif can do about that AFAIK. Chris B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lucky Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 14 minutes ago, Friksel said: In Windows the print dialog is dark, because you're in Affinity and put Affinity in dark mode. But when the properties windows isn't generated by Affinity, but by your printer manufacturar, it's the driver on Windows providing that window. So if Windows is set to light, like it is normally, than the properties window is light. That's just the way it works on Windows. Nothing Serif can do about that AFAIK. That is fine, I wouldn't care about the print dialogue - the big issue here is the finder obeying Affinity rather than your Mac preferences. Sedu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friksel Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mr Lucky said: That is fine, I wouldn't care about the print dialogue - the big issue here is the finder obeying Affinity rather than your Mac preferences. I understand @Mr Lucky, I was just reacting to @Pšenda here. I'm no Mac user, so I don't know, but from what I read from you I think I totally agree with you and would find it frustrating too if some of the interface was suddenly white, while I put Affinity on dark. Especially when working at night. Hope for you guys it's solved soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Friksel said: In Windows the print dialog is dark, because you're in Affinity and put Affinity in dark mode. But when the properties windows isn't generated by Affinity, but by your printer manufacturar, it's the driver on Windows providing that window. So if Windows is set to light, like it is normally, than the properties window is light. That's just the way it works on Windows. Nothing Serif can do about that AFAIK. Of course I know that. But I understand Serif is trying to unite it - that is, if the Affinity environment is dark, so that its own dialog and the systems dialog are dark. Otherwise, this is exactly what you write: 2 hours ago, Friksel said: and would find it frustrating too if some of the interface was suddenly white, while I put Affinity on dark. Edit: I hope to "fix" it in Windows, so that all dialogs have a uniform look. Ideally with the option of turning off in preferences, so some users don't mind. Edited June 11, 2019 by Pšenda Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomM1 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr Lucky said: That is fine, I wouldn't care about the print dialogue - the big issue here is the finder obeying Affinity rather than your Mac preferences. I agree. Quote website Mac mini (2018) 3.2 GHz Intel Core i7 64 GB • Radeon Pro 580 8 GB • macOS Monterey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedu Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 All your posts sounds like it works well for windows users. If you want to use a dark theme finder on a mac, you can switch it in seconds. Afinity doesn't need to apply any unchangable settings to the mac finder. It's not the end of the world either! Let us be surprised, how the following versions deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lucky Posted July 5, 2019 Author Share Posted July 5, 2019 I already have posted this here: Sorry for double post but I now consider it a showstopper bug as this bad usability cannot possibly be intended. Mods would it be possible to merge the threads to make it a bug report? I am still unable to use the updates, I really need my Mac finder to be light and for Affinity to be dark, this helps my poor eyes. But choosing dark for Affinity causes the finder window to be also dark when searching for files to open or location to save as from within Affinity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted July 5, 2019 Staff Share Posted July 5, 2019 I think you might have a point. I'll let dev have a look. Mr Lucky 1 Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 7/5/2019 at 8:44 AM, Chris B said: I think you might have a point. I'll let dev have a look. I finally decided to switch my iMac from High Sierra to Mojave & now I have the same problem that @Mr Lucky, @markw, & others have with the Open dialog in all the Affinity apps always using dark mode, even when the OS is set to use light mode. I don't know if there is any way to fix this -- I noticed that Pixelmator Pro does the same thing -- but if there is, it would be much appreciated. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lucky Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 minute ago, R C-R said: don't know if there is any way to fix this -- I noticed that Pixelmator Pro does the same thing -- but if there is, it would be much appreciated. There must be a way, other software works as it should, ie respecting that you may not want dark mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Just now, Mr Lucky said: There must be a way, other software works as it should, ie respecting that you may not want dark mode. What other software that offers its own choice between light & dark UI modes does that? As I said, Pixelmator Pro behaves exactly like the Affinity apps in this respect -- if I choose its dark mode, then its open dialogs always use a dark appearance, regardless of how Mojave's appearance mode is set. None the other apps on my iMac that have an open file capability offer a choice between light & dark UI modes so the issue never occurs. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lucky Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, R C-R said: What other software that offers its own choice between light & dark UI modes does that? I'm not sure how relevant that is to discuss what other software does or doesn't do when it comes to useability (Yes, it was me in the first place who mentioned other software respecting people's finder preferences). But for example in Logic Pro X when working in the piano roll I can choose light or dark there for the background and dark is my preference there, but the finder opens in light mode because that is my preference when browsing the files in my computer. Two very different things - people may not like dark mode on the computer but the do in the software due to what it is they are seeing in the software interface and the contrast (or lack of it) they may want when working. Anyway, I am not alone it seems quite a few people agree this is not good (including moderator who offered to discuss with devs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr Lucky said: Anyway, I am not alone it seems quite a few people agree this is not good (including moderator who offered to discuss with devs. If it is not clear, I too am among those who would like to see the light UI in Affinity open dialogs whether or not the app is using its dark mode. I was just pointing out that another third party app (Pixelmator Pro) does the same thing as the Affinity ones, so maybe it is not as simple as we might think to implement that in apps other than those coded by Apple. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff TonyB Posted January 24, 2020 Staff Share Posted January 24, 2020 52 minutes ago, R C-R said: If it is not clear, I too am among those who would like to see the light UI in Affinity open dialogs whether or not the app is using its dark mode. I was just pointing out that another third party app (Pixelmator Pro) does the same thing as the Affinity ones, so maybe it is not as simple as we might think to implement that in apps other than those coded by Apple. It's not hard and I agree the light UI in system dialogs when the OS is in light mode is much nicer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 54 minutes ago, TonyB said: It's not hard and I agree the light UI in system dialogs when the OS is in light mode is much nicer. Great! So does this mean that "real soon now" we can look forward to light UI open dialogs in the Affinity apps ... unlike your (sort of) competitor Pixelmator Pro? <insert tongue-in-cheek emoji here> Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff TonyB Posted January 27, 2020 Staff Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 3:50 PM, R C-R said: Great! So does this mean that "real soon now" we can look forward to light UI open dialogs in the Affinity apps ... unlike your (sort of) competitor Pixelmator Pro? <insert tongue-in-cheek emoji here> I'm just adding my weight to the request Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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