Steven123 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Hi, just a quick question, sorry for posting it in this forum, couldn't find a more appropriate one I am really loving getting to grips with Affinity software, and am looking forward to the 1.7 release. I was just wondering how big the development team behind the scenes is? all the best Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithferion Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 They are around a dozen of people. Best regards! Patrick Connor 1 Quote AMD FX 8350 :: Radeon HD 5670 :: Windows 10 :: http://mithferion.deviantart.com/ Oxygen Icons :: GCP Icons :: iOS 11 Design Resources :: iOS App Icon Template :: Free Quality Fonts (Commercial Use) :: Public Domain Images How to do High Quality Art :: Mesh Warp / Distort Tool Considerations :: Select Same / Object - Suggestions :: Live Glassmorphism Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven123 Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 That's a small team for taking on the Photoshop behemoth, Respect! Puts it all into perspective To me they come across as a massive company with endless resources Friksel and Callum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmwellborn Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Steven123 said: That's a small team for taking on the Photoshop behemoth, Respect! Puts it all into perspective To me they come across as a massive company with endless resources To me they are an incredibly impressive company with massive brains and endless efforts to achieve excellence. NilsFinken 1 Quote 24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 16 GB unified memory, 1 TB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6. Photo, Publisher, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.3. MacBook Pro 13" 2020, Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 256GB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6. Publisher, Photo, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.1.1. iPad Pro 12.9 2020 (4th Gen. IOS 16.6.1); Apple pencil. Wired and bluetooth mice and keyboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixx Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Steven123 said: That's a small team for taking on the Photoshop behemoth, Respect! not to mention titans like Illustrator and InDesign. Friksel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.: NICKY G. :. Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Fixx said: not to mention titans like Illustrator and InDesign. Titanic's Illustrator is only years old (30). Affinity has many shortcomings compared to illustrator, but as the software is now if they developed, they added the right things to AD according to my opinion will be better than AI. For now it still has painful notes, but it is much faster, leaner and more functional than AI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granddaddy Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 On 5/25/2019 at 5:42 AM, Steven123 said: I was just wondering how big the development team behind the scenes is? On 5/25/2019 at 5:50 AM, Mithferion said: They are around a dozen of people. I have always loved the fervor and responsiveness of small software companies. It was exciting in the early days to call PC-Write and have the phone answered by Bob Wallace himself. Unfortunately the small shops could not survive the rapid development of technology and fell out of business despite their innovative ideas and personal service. Affinity is trying to develop simultaneously multiple applications on multiple platforms while competing against established giants. Affinity's competitive advantages include an editing model that appeals to many and marketing errors by the behemoths. The stumbling rollout of AP 1.7 with the destruction of user data (dismissed as minor because it is "just" customizations), the native afphoto files increasing in size by a factor of 4 to 10 times, and the admission that the beta process allowed reported bugs to "fall through the net" during a year of testing would be troubling in a large company. Microsoft has committed the same errors and inflicted real disasters on users. But Microsoft is large enough to weather the storm and to rely on being the foundation of desktop computing (yes, I know several percent of desktop users are on Macs)., I'm thinking that the ties that bind customers to a company can be tenuous indeed. I abandoned Photoshop Elements when I "upgraded" from version 10 to version 14 and found the Clouds filter had been removed two versions earlier. I'm guessing Adobe considered this to be a very minor feature. I found very few complaints about this removal in the forums. But my experience is that customers don't complain, they just shop elsewhere. I was delighted to find that the Perlin Noise filter in AP could produce a similar effect despite it's seriously deficient implementation when compared to PE's Clouds. I was expecting Affinity to respond within hours to the reports of afphoto files being 10 times larger in version 1.7 as compared to version 1.6. At least I'd like to know if it is a bug that will be fixed or a feature that is permanent. But four days after Affinity reps said they'd get back to us there is no explanation. This gives the impression that the small staff is overwhelmed by version 1.7 rollout problems. As an old, amateur, retired guy I can afford to be patient. Those in production shops might be less forgiving. Quote Affinity Photo 2.4.2 (MSI) and 1.10.6; Affinity Publisher 2.4.2 (MSI) and 1.10.6. Windows 10 Home x64 version 22H2. Dell XPS 8940, 16 GB Ram, Intel Core i7-11700K @ 3.60 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 16 hours ago, Granddaddy said: But four days after Affinity reps said they'd get back to us there is no explanation. This gives the impression that the small staff is overwhelmed by version 1.7 rollout problems. Personally, I don't think it is reasonable to expect them to reply in the four days since the 1.7 apps went live, particularly considering that a weekend was involved, & that since then there have been a huge number of reports about various issues to sort through, many of them having nothing to do with bugs (like user confusion about how to update, where to find the new features & how to use them, etc.). Consider also that six products were just updated (2 each for Windows, Macs, & iPads), that two more (Publisher for Mac & Windows) are scheduled for their first retail releases in a few days, that they are trying to support a total of at least a dozen different existing & soon to be updated OS versions, & an ever growing number of different hardware configurations. Moreover, they are trying to do all this while simultaneously minimizing the disruption to existing user workflows. That's a monumental challenge even for the industry giants, & they don't exactly have a sterling track record in that respect either. So while I don't know what other customers are expecting, they have already far exceeding my own expectations & in no way have made me even briefly consider abandoning their products. markw, PaulEC, Andy Hayes and 2 others 4 1 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmwellborn Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 2 hours ago, R C-R said: Personally, I don't think it is reasonable to expect them to reply in the four days since the 1.7 apps went live . . . So while I don't know what other customers are expecting, they have already far exceeding my own expectations & in no way have made me even briefly consider abandoning their products. Thank you, R-C-R!! Totally agree with you. Glancing through the howls of anguish on the forums, it looks as though many of the initial “problems” have something to do with the customers’ hardware, preference settings, or customer confusion over where to go — site, store — to download their updates. I think The Affinity staff have been indefatigable in their efforts to get everybody up and running. I was one of many lucky ones without “metal” etc. issues. My Designer and Photo downloaded impeccably in a matter of a minute or two. (Good old MAC Sierra, I might add.) Quote 24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 16 GB unified memory, 1 TB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6. Photo, Publisher, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.3. MacBook Pro 13" 2020, Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 256GB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6. Publisher, Photo, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.1.1. iPad Pro 12.9 2020 (4th Gen. IOS 16.6.1); Apple pencil. Wired and bluetooth mice and keyboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, jmwellborn said: (Good old MAC Sierra, I might add.) If you include that information in your forum signature, it will be appended automagically to every post so you won’t need to add it manually. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmwellborn Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Just now, Alfred said: If you include that information in your forum signature, it will be appended automagically to every post so you won’t need to add it manually. Right you are. One of these days I will root out the details on my invoice, and add them in all their glory. For the nonce, I am being slothful. Alfred 1 Quote 24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 16 GB unified memory, 1 TB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6. Photo, Publisher, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.3. MacBook Pro 13" 2020, Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 256GB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6. Publisher, Photo, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.1.1. iPad Pro 12.9 2020 (4th Gen. IOS 16.6.1); Apple pencil. Wired and bluetooth mice and keyboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Kynast Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) On 5/25/2019 at 11:42 AM, Steven123 said: I was just wondering how big the development team behind the scenes is? Deep in my brain is the number of 100, but can't find it again. The company building https://www.google.de/maps/place/Serif+(Europe)+Ltd/@52.9169634,-1.1571404,124m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x4879c256e65a8ded:0xb0f2405300d5654d!8m2!3d52.9168566!4d-1.1574671?hl=de looks appropriate for this number to me That would give 30 for Photo 30 for Designer 30 for Publisher 10 for company management sounds reasonable to me. Update: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/serif states "Number of Employees 101-250" Best regards Wolfgang Edited June 10, 2019 by Wolfgang Kynast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, Wolfgang Kynast said: Update: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/serif states "Number of Employees 101-250" That’s the number of employees, not the number of development staff. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Kynast Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, Alfred said: That’s the number of employees, not the number of development staff. Sure. And 60 of them beeing developers (for 3 big products) sounds reasonable to me as a retired software engineer. I do not believe the "dozen people". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Patrick Connor Posted June 10, 2019 Staff Share Posted June 10, 2019 54 minutes ago, Wolfgang Kynast said: I do not believe the "dozen people" Quite right, it's a few more, but it's less than 20 Affinity software developers. 000, Alfred and jmwellborn 2 1 Quote Patrick Connor Serif Europe Ltd Latest V2 releases on each platform Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! "There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your previous self." W. L. Sheldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granddaddy Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Thanks to @Wolfgang Kynast for posting the Google Maps link to the Serif building in the Wilford Industrial Estate in Nottingham. Google's Street View camera drove right into the Serif parking lot when the warehouse door was open in order to turn around on the dead end street. (You have to pull in all the way to see the open door. In all approach images the door is closed.) As a frugal person myself, I have to commend Serif for its frugality. No doubt that frugality is what just made it possible for me to pre-order Affinity Publisher at a 20% discount from the already remarkably low price. Here in the States, even small software companies are housed in modern glass, brick, and steel buildings in landscaped office parks that may include picnic areas, skateboard structures, volleyball courts, and stylish cafeterias. Larger companies are housed on luxurious campuses. In contrast, Serif's building is a small, two-story shell building on a poorly paved, dead end street in a crowded, almost treeless, light industrial area right next to the railroad tracks. The only visible employee amenities are parking spaces for cars and a shelter for bicycles. Serif's building reminds me of small manufacturing facilities I've seen in third world countries, minus the high walls and concertina wire, of course. There is a small grassy area with a couple of trees and three picnic tables almost across the street from Serif. On the street by that grassy area there is what appears to be a small, trailer-mounted lunch stand in what I think is Elizabethan style. It is powered by a very, very long extension cord. A man is standing there talking to the proprietor in the Google imagery dated March 2019. (And isn't it amazing what you can learn on the Web just 30 years after Tim Berners-Lee invented it?) Joking aside, I'm impressed by the dedication to purpose and the avoidance of the frills that drive up costs in the U. S. I'm also impressed by the lack of Porsches, BMWs, and Lamborghinis in the parking lot, the kinds of cars that American software types like to show off. Quote Affinity Photo 2.4.2 (MSI) and 1.10.6; Affinity Publisher 2.4.2 (MSI) and 1.10.6. Windows 10 Home x64 version 22H2. Dell XPS 8940, 16 GB Ram, Intel Core i7-11700K @ 3.60 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friksel Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Granddaddy said: Are they building an new floor on top for the Publisher crew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnobelix Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, Friksel said: Are they building an new floor on top for the Publisher crew? I think so, Photo, Designer and Publisher, one floor each Quote Affinity Photo 2.4: Affinity Photo 1.10.6: Affinity Designer 2.4: Affinity Designer 1.10.6: Affinity Publisher 2.4: Affinity Publisher 1.10.6: Windows 11 Pro (Version 23H2 Build (22631.3447) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmwellborn Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 On 6/10/2019 at 11:54 AM, Alfred said: If you include that information in your forum signature, it will be appended automagically to every post so you won’t need to add it manually. All the gory details should now be below. The "automagic" sloth looked them up. Alfred 1 Quote 24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 16 GB unified memory, 1 TB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6. Photo, Publisher, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.3. MacBook Pro 13" 2020, Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 256GB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6. Publisher, Photo, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.1.1. iPad Pro 12.9 2020 (4th Gen. IOS 16.6.1); Apple pencil. Wired and bluetooth mice and keyboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmwellborn Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Granddaddy said: Here in the States, even small software companies are housed in modern glass, brick, and steel buildings in landscaped office parks that may include picnic areas, skateboard structures, volleyball courts, and stylish cafeterias. Larger companies are housed on luxurious campuses. In contrast, Serif's building is a small, two-story shell building on a poorly paved, dead end street in a crowded, almost treeless, light industrial area right next to the railroad tracks. The only visible employee amenities are parking spaces for cars and a shelter for bicycles. Serif's building reminds me of small manufacturing facilities I've seen in third world countries, minus the high walls and concertina wire, of course. I'm also impressed by the lack of Porsches, BMWs, and Lamborghinis in the parking lot, the kinds of cars that American software types like to show off. "All that glisters is not gold; Often have you heard that told: Many a man his life has sold But my outside to behold: Gilded tombs do worms enfold; Had you been as wise as bold. . ." William Shakespeare. Two guesses how many of your handy-dandy "small software companies ... housed in modern glass, brick, and steel buildings .... and driving Porsches, BMWs and Lamborghinis " are probably employing umpty-ump low-wage, vaguely skilled programmers from third-world countries to do their programming and subsequently charging $90.00 an hour or so to fix any and everything that doesn't work. And probably still won't work after "Susie" or "Steve" from (fill in the blank) has finished explaining it all in vague terms. I will take Serif any day of the week and twice on Sundays. They don't even need "Epic Skies" for this photograph. Plenty of nice clouds. Quote 24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 16 GB unified memory, 1 TB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6. Photo, Publisher, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.3. MacBook Pro 13" 2020, Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 256GB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6. Publisher, Photo, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.1.1. iPad Pro 12.9 2020 (4th Gen. IOS 16.6.1); Apple pencil. Wired and bluetooth mice and keyboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, jmwellborn said: All the gory details should now be below. The "automagic" sloth looked them up. jmwellborn 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 7 hours ago, Granddaddy said: I'm also impressed by the lack of Porsches, BMWs, and Lamborghinis in the parking lot, the kinds of cars that American software types like to show off. But if I am not mistaken, there is one very sleek looking Maserati in the lot (car park?), so at least someone there appreciates more than just high performance software. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted June 12, 2019 Staff Share Posted June 12, 2019 Don't judge a book by its cover https://affinityspotlight.com/article/affinity-live-our-very-first-live-event/ dutchshader, Patrick Connor, jmwellborn and 1 other 4 Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmwellborn Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Chris B said: Don't judge a book by its cover https://affinityspotlight.com/article/affinity-live-our-very-first-live-event/ Looks like a wonderful place to work!! Chris B 1 Quote 24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 16 GB unified memory, 1 TB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6. Photo, Publisher, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.3. MacBook Pro 13" 2020, Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 256GB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6. Publisher, Photo, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.1.1. iPad Pro 12.9 2020 (4th Gen. IOS 16.6.1); Apple pencil. Wired and bluetooth mice and keyboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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