Negative value first line indent for bullet points

[Ademanda 2]

Hi.

This is my first day of using the beta. I'm looking to close my Adobe CC account and switch over to Affinity - provided the tools can meet my needs as a graphic designer. Looking at the Publisher Beta today and my first niggle is that there is no way of putting a negative value on left indent. When I do bullet points or numbering, I always use negative first line indent with an equal positive left indent so that the whole bullet point is indented. Any way of getting this to work?

I'm sure I may find other things - but that's all for my first day.

Thanks.

[thomaso 135]

17 hours ago, Ademanda said:

When I do bullet points or numbering, I always use negative first line indent with an equal positive left indent so that the whole bullet point is indented. Any way of getting this to work?

I might misunderstand your approach but it sounds to me it can be achieved without negative indent but simply assigning different values for indent and first line indent.

Is that what you want?, intended bullets:

 

 

[Ademanda 2]

Hi thomaso 

Yes - it can - but not if I want the first bullet point alignment inline with the paragraph above and all lines within the bullet points aligned indented from the bullet point. Does this make sense? 

[walt.farrell 1,275]

Have you tried using the bullet styles that exist already in the Text Styles list? They should automatically do what you want, I think.

If they don't, please provide a screenshot showing what you want to achieve, using your Adobe application if needed.

[thomaso 135]

2 hours ago, Ademanda said:

all lines within the bullet points aligned indented

Hi Walt,

I guess I don't understand. To me your "all lines within the bullet points aligned indented" occurs in my screenshot for the words "line" and "item" in the selected frame.
And imho "the first bullet point alignment inline with the paragraph above" can be set by the first line indent.

A "real" negative indent would mean that an element would sit exterior of the text frame, wouldn't it? – Curious, too, what Ademanda's screenhot will show.

[walt.farrell 1,275]

17 minutes ago, thomaso said:

Hi Walt,

I guess I don't understand. To me your "all lines within the bullet points aligned indented" occurs in my screenshot for the words "line" and "item" in the selected frame.
And imho "the first bullet point alignment inline with the paragraph above" can be set by the first line indent.

That was Ademanda's statement, not mine

[thomaso 135]

@Walt, sorry!

@Ademanda, might it be you simply ask for a "negative first line indent" because you know it this way from InDesign?

If yes, you might have not noticed yet that in AfPub the values in the indent fields are absolute and independent – whereas in InDesign the first line indent needs to become written as a substraction of the other (paragraph or left indent). In InDesign I always felt disturbed by that sort of backwards thinking.

[Ademanda 2]

Hi thomaso - and thanks for all who commented.

Yes, the 'negative first line indent' was indeed something I used in InDesign and I was trying to duplicate this so that the first bullet wasn't indented. See attached pdf of a page from a magazine I worked on. I can see now that 'Bullet 1' in the text styles does exactly what I asked for - thank you.