postmadesign Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I am working on a flyer with various fonts in it, but when I tried to export it, all text is converted to curves. I have tried several settings, but they don't change a thing. I could not find any embedding restrictions on the fonts. This is really annoying, I hope you can fix this. I have created an empty document with a basic font, and exporting this worked OK, so I guess it is somehow font related. I am not sure how to troubleshoot the issue though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I experienced such with PDF/X- export only. And, yes, it was font related. – You might have more success with a newer PDF version 1.6 or 1.7. macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postmadesign Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 No, I tried several PDF versions, several settings, changed fonts, but no cigar... I created a new document with just a text box, and tested several fonts that I know can be embedded without any problem. The results seem almost random which embed and which are changed to curves, but certainly the more complex fonts never embed (but do without problems in indesign). Some were embedded in the wrong way (I had a font replaced by some symbols?) This needs to be fixed, as it is a serious issue if it can not be relied upon. Converting to curves is the safest option, but it inflates file size enormously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 4 hours ago, postmadesign said: tested several fonts that I know can be embedded without any problem. In my experience it was not necessarily related to the ability of embedding of the particular font. For instance some weights of Adobe Univers did not work for me, others did - whereas all can be embedded. – However, your experience sounds more weird and disturbing, indeed. I'd like to see if I get the same result, to see if such might be related to computer or system or different application prefs. If you want upload an .afpub + font file at a dropbox and send the link as PM. macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postmadesign Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 The thing I was working on is client work, but I will try to create a basic file with fonts that shows the problem. Do you have a Dropbox i can use as I don't want the fonts to be downloaded by others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Harris Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 You can force text to be converted to curves with a setting under File > Export > PDF > More > Embed Fonts. Assuming that isn't happening, Publisher may convert fonts to curves automatically. That can happen if the text has a gradient fill or bitmap fill, or if PDFLib doesn't understand the font. garrettm30 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postmadesign Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, Dave Harris said: You can force text to be converted to curves with a setting under File > Export > PDF > More > Embed Fonts. Assuming that isn't happening, Publisher may convert fonts to curves automatically. That can happen if the text has a gradient fill or bitmap fill, or if PDFLib doesn't understand the font. Hi Dave, I know that these settings exist, and have tried several ways to get the fonts to embed. But it seems to do so randomly, as I have tested several fonts in other apps like indesign, and here it embeds without problems. Fonts with more complex curves seem to never embed, whereas more regular sans serifs do, but not consistently. I attached a PDF (PDF for Print, subset font embedding) made in Publisher .305 with various fonts, all with a simple black fill. Some fonts seem to do OK, others don't, none have embedding restrictions. I can't really find a pattern. Untitled1.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postmadesign Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 Are there any ideas or views on this topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebez71 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Hi, I have no problem with the fonts in the pdf. I enclose a pdf and a screenshot of my settings. text test.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postmadesign Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 It is very strange, I did another test with the exact same settings, and still some fonts are converted to curves, some not. They are all OT or TT fonts, no embedding restrictions... Some are activated by FontXplorer, some system fonts. Sometimes when using 2 fonts in a text box, the one is converted, the other not... This is really frustrating as I can not find a pattern, and it seems a serious issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebez71 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 I don't know, I tried also to use one of the fonts that had been converted in your example (Brush Up) and in my pdf it hasn't been converted. I use Suitcase Fusion, maybe try cleaning the font cache. Testo test2.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Sean P Posted May 3, 2019 Staff Share Posted May 3, 2019 Hi postmadesign, Would it be possible for you to attach a copy of your afpub file you are exporting please, along with any related used fonts? Without this we cannot investigate as to what might be the cause of it getting converted to curves! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postmadesign Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 I tried clearing the font cache in the app (reset fonts) but to no avail. Here is a simple document with 4 fonts, 2 embed, 2 don't. I attached both the afpub file and the PDF. I hope this issue can be cleared up. Test_fonts.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_B_C Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Hmm … so Alegreya Sans is converted to curves … unfortunately, I don’t see that here. No conversion taking place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postmadesign Posted May 4, 2019 Author Share Posted May 4, 2019 I am using el capitan, I am not sure if this makes a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 15 hours ago, A_B_C said: Hmm … so Alegreya Sans is converted to curves … unfortunately, I don’t see that here. No conversion taking place. After you tested with fonts installed already: when I export without fonts installed then I may alter letters within the PDF on each line: Different to the OT's pdf, where the 1st line appears to be curved but the lines below appear as text boxes (and simply missing the not-installed fonts): macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postmadesign Posted May 5, 2019 Author Share Posted May 5, 2019 It seems I have found the problem: it appears that FontXplorer has some kind of problem with fonts that appear to be activated and visible but are not actually really activated at all. I am not sure what causes this, but after deactivating and re-activating the fonts, they are correctly embedded. InDesign CS5.5 had given me warnings of missing fonts, even though they had been activated in FEX. Reactivating these fonts solved this problem. As these issues seemingly did not occur in Affinity, I assumed it was an indesign issue. Now it seems it is indeed some kind of issue with FEX. If I run into more issues or find what causes them I will get back to you, thanks! I might try it with another font manager to see if I get better results. A_B_C and Sean P 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Sean P Posted May 7, 2019 Staff Share Posted May 7, 2019 Hi Postmadesign, Glad you're back up and running! Now you've mentioned it I believe other people have had this issue, but its not something I've ever been able to replicate - and by the sounds of it seems to be a slight hiccup with FontExplorer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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