A possible pinning Issue

[walt.farrell]

Here's a sample .afpub file: pinning1.afpub

Scenario:

• Open the .afpub. Open the Pinning Panel. Select the red rectangle. Observe position of rectangle.
• Click Inline button in Pinning Panel. Note that rectangle moves.
• Click Unpin button. Note that the rectangle moves again.
• Continue to alternate between Inline and Unpin. Note that the rectangle moves to a different each time.

This feels wrong. I expected the Unpin to be a kind of Undo for the prior pinning action. But perhaps my expectations are wrong.

(By the way, there seems to be no Help for pinning yet.)

 

[Uwe367]

14 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

Here's a sample .afpub file: pinning1.afpub

Scenario:

• Open the .afpub. Open the Pinning Panel. Select the red rectangle. Observe position of rectangle.
• Click Inline button in Pinning Panel. Note that rectangle moves.
• Click Unpin button. Note that the rectangle moves again.
• Continue to alternate between Inline and Unpin. Note that the rectangle moves to a different each time.

This feels wrong. I expected the Unpin to be a kind of Undo for the prior pinning action. But perhaps my expectations are wrong.

(By the way, there seems to be no Help for pinning yet.)

 

I can confirm that behavior. I used your file for the video @walt.farrell Hope that is ok.
Take a look to the screenvideo please. Every time when i klick "Inline" the rectangle moves to another position and unpin does that the text moves around the rectangle. I believe it´s a bug.

 

[dominik]

2 hours ago, Uwe367 said:

Every time when i klick "Inline" the rectangle moves to another position and unpin does that the text moves around the rectangle.

Thanks for the video. This may be related to an explanation @Jon P gave in this post:

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just select the object and click to pin it, it will find the nearest text and pin to it

Perhaps the 'intelligence' behind the 'find the nearest text' is 'confused' 

In other words I, too, would expect a more consistant behaviour.
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[Dave Harris]

There are two factors involved here. The first is that the shape has wrap settings. When it is not pinned, the text wraps around it. When it is inline, it behaves as if it were another character, and characters don't wrap around characters. They just avoid each other by being placed one after another along the baseline. The default pin location is picked with the text as it was before you pinned, which then moves when the text stops wrapping. I'll see if we can do something about this, but in the mean time I'd suggest you switch off wrapping for the shape if you intend to make it inline.

The second factor will become more apparent if you do that. It's due to the shape being taller than the text leading, so when pinned inline both it and the line of text it is pinned to are pushed down so that it can fit below the previous line. When you unpin it, the text jumps back up but the shape stays where it is. If you pin it inline a second time, it gets a different pin location because it is now above different text. I don't think there's much we can do about this.

It may help to know that the default text location for inline pins is under the bottom left of the shape's frame box. (For floating pins it uses top-centre of the box.)