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i believe Affinity Publisher would do better job and be even competitive if you had a possibility to do OCR or Characters recognition on loaded PDF or scanned documents.
in fact Publisher should be pair correctly with scanners and have Pro level scan functionalities to allow more Pro to converge or convert to it.
There is a capture software called snagit who does that job so why not Publisher ?

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56 minutes ago, Uncle Mez said:

so why not Publisher ?

Other products are available to perform OCR for PDFs (including the free Tesseract), so why Publisher?

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37 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

Other products are available to perform OCR for PDFs (including the free Tesseract), so why Publisher?

Because it is always better to have everything in one place.
ONly they don't work as expected then one can search - find - install and use another one (more suitable to him)

Less is more: less installed software on a laptop/mac is still more.

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4 minutes ago, Uncle Mez said:

Because it is always better to have everything in one place.
ONly they don't work as expected then one can search - find - install and use another one (more suitable to him)

Less is more: less installed software on a laptop/mac is still more.

Sorry, but I'll have to disagree.

The function is usually much better when an application focuses on doing one thing well, or at least a related package of things, and its developers understand that function.

OCR is not related to Publisher's mission, and is not like anything else that Publisher does. If OCR is important to you, use an application focused on OCR and you will have better results.

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Forgot to mention: There are obvious functions missing from Publisher that are related to Publisher's mission (e.g., footnotes). It would be far better for all of Publisher's users to implement those functions, and improve the rough spots in the other Publisher features, than to implement OCR. (In my opinion, of course.)

Also, there's an issue with your suggestion of tieing Publisher into scanning functions, as scanning is not available at all on Windows for the Affinity applications. Unless that can be resolved (which, again, I don't see as a core function of any of the Affinity applications) any efforts made for that in Publisher would ignore a large portion of the Affinity user base.

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59 minutes ago, Uncle Mez said:

Because it is always better to have everything in one place.
ONly they don't work as expected then one can search - find - install and use another one (more suitable to him)

Less is more: less installed software on a laptop/mac is still more.

Blessings.

Adding OCR can be a can of worms. There are issues with the various flavors of English and then what about other languages? You have snagit so just check out the OCR issue on the Techsmith forums and you will see what I mean/ Everything in one place is not always better; I have seen programs that do everything but not of it very well

You can set up preset in Snagit to do a panoramic capture and automatically have it run it's OCR over the results. I use Nitro for my PDF work and it has a good OCR engine Tessseract may do it; it is free but I have never used it but for you it may be worth a try if you do a lot of conversions

IF you need a hand with setting up a panoramic capture to OCR just say the word

No one is trying to be a wet blanket with your idea, but a lot of programs ditched scanning a long time ago and left it to specialized programs

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On 4/18/2019 at 2:42 PM, walt.farrell said:

Sorry, but I'll have to disagree.

The function is usually much better when an application focuses on doing one thing well, or at least a related package of things, and its developers understand that function.

OCR is not related to Publisher's mission, and is not like anything else that Publisher does. If OCR is important to you, use an application focused on OCR and you will have better results.

It is a major selling point, that's why! If you are comparing products that can edit import and export pdf's all the competition has this feature. adobe acrobat, Pdf architect, pdfelement etc etc. affinity publisher will not compete with these without it.

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30 minutes ago, derrickmg said:

If you are comparing products that can edit import and export pdf's all the competition has this feature.

I'm not sure what you mean but Publisher can import PDFs and edit them.

Publisher is what inDesign is and not a replacement of Adobe Acrobat. You wouldn't compare inDesign to Adobe Acrobat would you. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

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Acrobat already does this. You have the option of scanning a document and converting the text to editable text. Fine for office use. I use it every day. There are other even more robust applications that are used for business.

Publisher is fine for what it is. It's missing some features that are more urgent, like better text import options, GREP searches, IDML export (the import works great, so far), packaging, etc.. You know, publishy things. There's room for improvement, but OCR's would be a distraction.

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11 hours ago, Cranky Old Huckster said:

GREP searches

It has regular expression support, via options in Find and Replace.

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On 4/18/2019 at 2:56 PM, walt.farrell said:

Other products are available to perform OCR for PDFs (including the free Tesseract), so why Publisher?

Tesseract is not advisable for anyone not familiar with coding. Could you have picked a worst example? I realize you're trying to help but sending people to command line software is evil.

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15 minutes ago, languidcorpse said:

Other products are available to perform OCR for PDFs

 

On 4/18/2019 at 3:45 PM, Rick G said:

Adding OCR can be a can of worms. There are issues with the various flavors of English and then what about other languages? Y ...  Everything in one place is not always better; I have seen programs that do everything but none of it very well

OCR software that works really well tends to be expensive. If you only want basic OCR there are cheap/free alternatives.

As has been pointed out many times, Serif are already working on three apps on three platforms. Do you really think they can start developing OCR software that is any better than other OCR software and then include it in APub, especially at the price they sell APub for?

Sometimes OCR can be handy, but it has nothing to do with page layouts/publishing which is what APub is for. It makes about as much sense as asking Serif to include movie editing, audio recording and 3D model creation in APub.

IMHO Serif should concentrate of making all three apps do what they do as well as possible, not worry about adding endless extra features, that are nothing to do with the core functions of the apps. If OCR is so important, buy some dedicated OCR software. 

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