rbsund Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I literally have to hover and wait for the description every time... this is supposed to be a comic with 2 pictures per icon right? would it be possible to overhaul these icons into something clearer? Ecifircas, Jowday, GRAFKOM and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I am glad I am not the only person with this confusion. Seneca 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Move Along People Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 - Laganama, rui_mac, casterle and 2 others 5 Quote Move Along people,nothing to see here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowday Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, haakoo said: Highlight the button that would be possible and dim the non possible i.e. if open curve, highlight the close curve button. if closed curve, highlight the break curve button. Exactly. Why is it possible to click a button that can't do anything. Context sensitive buttons please. 6 hours ago, rbsund said: I literally have to hover and wait for the description every time... this is supposed to be a comic with 2 pictures per icon right? would it be possible to overhaul these icons into something clearer? Me too. Especially meaningless for cultures with RTL text and icons etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-left Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 13 hours ago, rbsund said: would it be possible to overhaul these icons into something clearer? Any suggestion? Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 How about something simple like this? (I won't say which is which as it should be fairly obvious.) Move Along People 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 I think the “Break” button should be disabled when an ‘end node’ of an open curve is selected because there’s nothing to break, as it’s already the end of the curve. I also think that the “Close” button should be disabled when you have a straight line with only two nodes as there’s nothing to ‘close’ in a straight line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 4 hours ago, GarryP said: How about something simple like this? (I won't say which is which as it should be fairly obvious.) For me, your proposal is definitely not clearer and more obvious than the original one. He definitely lacks the symmetry, that obviously is in the mentioned actions (open/close), and should therefore also be apparent from the icons. I would also like to know, how icons will look when they are adjusted to the correct resolution, when details are lost. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 4 hours ago, GarryP said: I think the “Break” button should be disabled when an ‘end node’ of an open curve is selected because there’s nothing to break, as it’s already the end of the curve. Agreed. 4 hours ago, GarryP said: I also think that the “Close” button should be disabled when you have a straight line with only two nodes as there’s nothing to ‘close’ in a straight line. A straight line is still technically a curve. I think you’ll find that if you ‘close’ a straight line and then drag the middle to one side with the Node Tool, you’ll end up with a closed shape bounded by a curve on one side and a straight line on the other. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Closing a straight line seems a bit strange to me, I wonder if that’s the correct and expected behaviour. Maybe it’s useful for something that I haven’t come across. Now I’m wondering: Should the “Close” button be disabled for a closed curve? That sounds reasonable to me. Anyway, attached are another two icons to throw into the mix. Neither is fantastic but they may give people some better ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowday Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Hopefully a UX profile can direct their graphic artist. Remember that the icons are tiny on a high-res monitor. Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchshader Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 from the designer help folder Laganama 1 Quote intel core i5, 16GB 128Gb ssd win10 Pro Huion new 1060plus. philips 272p 2560x1440px on intel HD2500 onboard graphics Razer Tartarus Chroma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Move Along People Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 - lepr and Laganama 2 Quote Move Along people,nothing to see here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulEC Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Just a thought - but I wonder if you could just have one toggle button, that closes open curves and opens closed ones? Quote Acer XC-895 : Core i5-10400 Hexa-core 2.90 GHz : 32GB RAM : Intel UHD Graphics 630 : Windows 10 Home Affinity Publisher 2 : Affinity Photo 2 : Affinity Designer 2 : (latest release versions) on desktop and iPad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 dutchshader: My first attached image shows how the buttons look on my screen: Break; Close; Smooth; Join; Reverse. The Close and Break buttons icons are not the same as in the Help, which is a little troubling. The little lines coming out of the single node on each are confusing to me. Also, the icon on the Close button doesn’t look like what it actually does. The icon looks like the function will join two nodes whereas the function actually puts a curve between the two end nodes. So Close should look more like my second attached image. haakoo: I agree that “Open Curve” and “Closed Curve” are better descriptors in the Layers panel. PaulEC: At first I thought a toggle button might be a bad idea but I can’t – off the top of my head - think of a reason why. One part of me is saying “That won’t work” while another part is asking “Why won’t it work?” Maybe someone can give a good example of where it would reduce functionality. Ecifircas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 3 hours ago, dutchshader said: from the designer help folder That is much clearer. Don't even really need the arrows. Void 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I agree that the Help icons are much clearer than those in the application but the arrows – in this case – are necessary to show what happens. One of the issues some people had was that the application icons can look the wrong way round to people who read right-to-left as there was no way to see ‘which way round’ they were. Alfred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 4 hours ago, GarryP said: but the arrows – in this case – are necessary to show what happens. For me not. Time axes (what is and what will be) is obvious. The direction of text reading is not decisive. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbsund Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 Quote For me not. Time axes (what is and what will be) is obvious. The direction of text reading is not decisive. But it's not obvious in which icons there is a time axis... so I would pledge to keep the arrows... (is anyone from Affinity even reading this? xD) They certainly don't do any harm. Quote I also really liked this proposal as it doesn't need a timeline and once you get it the two are hard to confuse, which doesn't apply to the comic version. Seeing if a curve is closed or open by glancing at which Icon is greyed out would come in really handy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eobet Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I mean, they're just the mirrored versions of each other. Is this a bug? This, I would understand: Arceom and wtrmlnjuc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominik Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, eobet said: I mean, they're just the mirrored versions of each other. Is this a bug? This, I would understand: This is an interesting suggestion. I just recently realized that I constantly keep looking at the tool tips to tell them icons apart. I think the confusing part is this tiny horizontal line. d. Quote Affinity Designer 1 & 2 | Affinity Photo 1 & 2 | Affinity Publisher 1 & 2 Affinity Designer 2 for iPad | Affinity Photo 2 for iPad | Affinity Publisher 2 for iPad Windows 11 64-bit - Core i7 - 16GB - Intel HD Graphics 4600 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M iPad pro 9.7" + Apple Pencil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eobet Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Thanks! Glad to hear I'm not alone in this. Here's a refinement that might work even better: Jeremy Bohn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 dominik 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eobet Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Great! Missed that thread. Could a moderator perhaps merge these two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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