Designer - How to keep lines 'wobbly'?

[psyched]

Hi People

I'm using the trial version of Designer and want to draw very wobbly lines with the pencil tool - however the program keeps smoothing the lines out! 

I can see the 'stabiliser' option which controls how the lines smooth, but cannot see how to turn it off completely - or at least reduce the smoothing.

Anyone have advice?

[Old Bruce]

The check box by the S in Stabiliser.

How wobbly are the very wobbly lines supposed to be? I have no problem with the pencil tool doing wobbly.

[psyched]

47 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

The check box by the S in Stabiliser.

How wobbly are the very wobbly lines supposed to be? I have no problem with the pencil tool doing wobbly.

 

Thanks Bruce - yes, the box is unchecked but I need VERY wobbly lines - Well, I just want them to stay as wobbly as I draw them. 

 

[firstdefence]

Do you need the line to be vector?

If you do have you tried the brush tool instead of the line tool, it seems to give a slightly more wobbly line.

if not you could drop into the pixel persona and use the brush tool there, that should get you wobblier lines. The pixel brushes have more settings so you can have a more textured brush as well.

[psyched]

1 hour ago, firstdefence said:

Do you need the line to be vector?

If you do have you tried the brush tool instead of the line tool, it seems to give a slightly more wobbly line.

if not you could drop into the pixel persona and use the brush tool there, that should get you wobblier lines. The pixel brushes have more settings so you can have a more textured brush as well.

Thank you - but I need vector and the brush tool still smooths too much!   Maybe I need to check another prog but it seems odd not to be able to turn a 'helper' off.  

[gdenby]

It appears to me that Affinity pencil tools tries to make smooth curves. The speed of drawing  seems to set how many samples are made to place the nodes that define the curve. Attached, a line drawn swiftly. 2 more, moving slow and slower w. very arthritic hands. 

[firstdefence]

What about making wobbly brushes: Wobble Brushes FD.afbrushes 

These aren't very high quality but just to show you what you could do.

[R C-R]

3 hours ago, psyched said:

Thanks Bruce - yes, the box is unchecked but I need VERY wobbly lines - Well, I just want them to stay as wobbly as I draw them.

From what I can tell, the Pencil Tool places a node whenever the drawing direction changes by a certain amount, as determined by the stroke thickness & (maybe) how far in or out the document is zoomed while using it. So, maybe try a very thin stroke width setting & possibly zooming in quite a bit & see if that makes the lines more wobbly?

1 hour ago, psyched said:

Maybe I need to check another prog but it seems odd not to be able to turn a 'helper' off.  

There has to be some mechanism to determine when not to place a node -- otherwise, the tool would have to place them at intervals determined by the internal precision of the app, which is something like 1 part in ten to the eight power. If it did that, the document size would quickly become unmanageable because millions if not billions of nodes would be created.

[psyched]

On 3/23/2019 at 10:46 PM, firstdefence said:

What about making wobbly brushes: Wobble Brushes FD.afbrushes 

These aren't very high quality but just to show you what you could do.

firstdefence - Genius!    Being a complete amateur in Affinity I have no idea how you did that but the number of nodes is right for me.  Can't thank you enough.  It's for a style of cartooning...  So now I can buy the software and probably reappear sometime with another problem! ......

[psyched]

On 3/23/2019 at 10:31 PM, gdenby said:

It appears to me that Affinity pencil tools tries to make smooth curves. The speed of drawing  seems to set how many samples are made to place the nodes that define the curve. Attached, a line drawn swiftly. 2 more, moving slow and slower w. very arthritic hands. 

Thanks for trying though!

[psyched]

On 3/23/2019 at 10:49 PM, R C-R said:

From what I can tell, the Pencil Tool places a node whenever the drawing direction changes by a certain amount, as determined by the stroke thickness & (maybe) how far in or out the document is zoomed while using it. So, maybe try a very thin stroke width setting & possibly zooming in quite a bit & see if that makes the lines more wobbly?

There has to be some mechanism to determine when not to place a node -- otherwise, the tool would have to place them at intervals determined by the internal precision of the app, which is something like 1 part in ten to the eight power. If it did that, the document size would quickly become unmanageable because millions if not billions of nodes would be created.

Yep - makes perfect sense - even to me - thanks!