Joachim_L Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Never had this case before. Step 1: Create Greyscale document Step 2: Place PDF CMYK + 1 spot colour Result: Placed PDF displayed in grey Step 3: Export as PDF, Colour space like document, ICC use document profile Unexpected result: Coloured PDF CMYK + 1 spot colour ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Pauls Posted March 25, 2019 Staff Share Posted March 25, 2019 If you're on build 267 or 270 could you attach a sample document please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim_L Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 Of course. I am on build 270. multi-colour.pdf has 1 spot and 2 cmyk colours. greyscale.afpub has Colour Format Grey/8 and Colour Profile Greyscale D50. Imported multi-colour.pdf. In the layout multi-colour.pdf is displayed as greyscale. Export with PDF (for print) with Colour Space As Document and ICC profile Use document profile and Embed ICC profile checked. greyscale-export.pdf has 1 spot and 2 cmyk colours. BTW: If you save a greyscale Publisher document it has no preview icon in explorer (Windows 8.1). greyscale.afpub greyscale-export.pdf multi-colour.pdf ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim_L Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 Found it. You have to explicitly select Colour space as Grey and ICC Profile to Greyscale D50 in the export to PDF dialogue to make a greyscale PDF. The automatism taking the values from the Document Setup does not work. Another question: After a document is created and you re-visit the Document Setup there are the buttons for Assign colour profile and Convert colour profile (pre-selected). When is Assign colour profile ever used? Yes, you can select it, but when you re-visit Document Setup Convert colour profile is selected again ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Joachim_L said: Found it. You have to explicitly select Colour space as Grey and ICC Profile to Greyscale D50 in the export to PDF dialogue to make a greyscale PDF. The automatism taking the values from the Document Setup do not work. Would you be so kind as to upload the new exported pdf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim_L Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 Sure. See attached file. real-greyscale.pdf ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, Joachim_L said: Sure. See attached file. real-greyscale.pdf Thanks. Only reason I asked is because APub really cannot export a proper black only plate when there is spot color involved. Simply, when using gray output everything should hit the black-only plate. I hadn't tried in a while, so I tried it again using your APub file (thanks for uploading it, too). It fails a pre-flight check for various reasons. The spot color plate is still present despite it appearing OK in the PDF. Which means there are a minimum of two plates as it is. However, the CMYK colorant still will separate into all 4 plates unless a print establishment specifically chooses a grey ICC profile. While this corrects the CMYK components, it still leaves the HKS 7 spot plate intact. (Technically, the only gray in the HKS plate is an alternate fill color space. This can be corrected in Acrobat, pdfToolbox & most RIP software used by professional printing establishments.) Mike SrPx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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