Diane Window 10 Desktop AD Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 I am trying to make some texture files for designs to give them a little aged look or whatever. I just tried making the one below just to try out. I took what looked like white cardstock and ink from and ink pad and made some marks, as you can see. I took a picture of the card with iPhone and saved to Dropbox, so I could use on a desktop. So since the card did not come out like I thought it would I made adjustments, to make very black which it was just blacker. Then took the off white and made it really white, Then I saved at PNG and the file is like 46MB LOL. Then I rasterized it and it cut it in half but still crazy. Oh yeah, the 46MB was with 9600x12000 px. ( I know big I was coping from texture I bought and there was only 5.8MB it looked way different there had more covered and I would think it would be more MB not less.) Even and my usual 4500x5400 px it is 16MB and that is to big. So now I tried to put on artboard to see if it made a difference learning here:) The size said 4500x5400 but on the computer where you click on the file it says size dimensions are 3061x3673 and 10MB. What am I doing wrong that they could get theirs to 5.7 MB and mine is 2x's as big? Please help. As always thank you so much:) FIRST PIC IS IN DROP BOX 2.88mb PERFECT SIZE BUT NOT TO WHITE AND JPG (DO YOU NEED A PNG?) 2ND PIC IS THE BIG ON SMALLEST I CAN GET IT, OH GUESS WHAT CAN'T SHOW YOU 2ND TO BIG LOL Quote Windows 10 desktop ram 8g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 26 minutes ago, funnyg480 said: Oh yeah, the 46MB was with 9600x12000 px. How did you manage to get that many pixels from a photo taken with an iPhone camera? The ones in the latest high end models have a 4032 x 3024 pixel (12 MP) resolution. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diane Window 10 Desktop AD Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 Mine is from NASA lol. Well, I had to find out how many pixels the pic was on phone (so had to look that up lol) It was about 3MB. I put the JPG that I transferred using Dropbox, and it is 3.08 MB. So I put that in AD and when I export it to PNG it is over 20MB not doing anything. But now I noticed it has size of file when exporting, so if I go to jpg it is 8MB approx. But if I choose PNG it is 20MB approx but there is a drop down for resample and I tried what was called nearest neighbor and it goes to 8.81MB. WHAT THE HECK IS NEAREST NEIGHBOR LOL. I live in NJ. This is all 4500x5400 Quote Windows 10 desktop ram 8g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdenby Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 .jpg files are always smaller than .png files, even when the .jpg files are saved at 100% quality. For example, I have a PD historic photo on hand. As a 98% quality .jpg, it is 1.6 Mb. If I save it as 90% quality, a decrease in quality that is not apparent to my eye, it drops to 740 Kb. If I save it at 50%, while applying 50% smoohting, the file size is 200 Kb, tho' at 500% zoom, I can see the blocky compression artifacts. If I save either as .png, they end up at 2.5 Mb. I don't know enough about .png to say, but it is a lossless format, while .jpg is not. .jpg uses compression routines, and data is thrown away as the quality setting is decreased. If I recall correctly, the file is also built in a way to allow all data to be stored compressed even w/o info being averaged or reduced. Quote iMac 27" Retina, c. 2015: OS X 10.11.5: 3.3 GHz I c-5: 32 Gb, AMD Radeon R9 M290 2048 Mb iPad 12.9" Retina, iOS 10, 512 Gb, Apple pencil Huion WH1409 tablet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diane Window 10 Desktop AD Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 Well, I guess I can keep it at jpg for the texture. I make t-shirts and I have to upload in PNG and that is where it gets BAD lol. I can only do maybe 21mb only and it goes to high to put on a shirt. I hope I can figure this out, till then won't make any textures. Thank you for helping:) Quote Windows 10 desktop ram 8g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, funnyg480 said: I can only do maybe 21mb only and it goes to high to put on a shirt. Why is that too big to put on a shirt? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diane Window 10 Desktop AD Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 To many MB has to be around 20MB Quote Windows 10 desktop ram 8g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, funnyg480 said: To many MB has to be around 20MB Why is it too many? You seem to be going around in circles, talking about different images, different pixel dimensions, different file sizes, etc. in different replies, & leaving out a lot of info that would make it easier to understand what you need. Maybe it would help to start over, explaining more completely what you have done, what you want, & why you can't get that. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diane Window 10 Desktop AD Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 Ok, Sorry new to this and can't understand about how it got so big lol. The size of the shirt has to be 4500x5400, no more than 20mb Approx. and has to be PNG. So what I did was take white cardstock and put black ink on it to test (making a texture) I took a picture of it with iPhone. Then uploaded it to desktop with Dropbox, that image was 3.8MB which is great. By the time I add something to shirt like text or graphics still should be ok. By the time I put a picture to test (picture was 2 MB file). I put texture on and saved then it went to 25MB, I really don't know why it jumped so much. I have tried rasterizing it which brings it down some. But still pretty high. I bought a texture pack just to see what there MB where on theirs and so much lower. The size of the file is 5.66MB 9600x12389, PNG so much bigger. That is just texture. My texture is over 20MB when I save it alone as PNG, started out as 3.08MB JPG. I wanted to download a pic for you but TOOOOOOO BIG LOL. Quote Windows 10 desktop ram 8g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdenby Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 At what dpi are you saving the .png? The difference between screen resolution, 72 dpi, and common print resolutions, 300 dpi, is about 12X. 300 dpi is to high for t-shirt printing. Quote iMac 27" Retina, c. 2015: OS X 10.11.5: 3.3 GHz I c-5: 32 Gb, AMD Radeon R9 M290 2048 Mb iPad 12.9" Retina, iOS 10, 512 Gb, Apple pencil Huion WH1409 tablet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diane Window 10 Desktop AD Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 Really:) I always do 300dpi cause I thought if it was lower it would look, I don't know no good? Quote Windows 10 desktop ram 8g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, funnyg480 said: I put texture on and saved then it went to 25MB, I really don't know why it jumped so much. Do you mean the Affinity .afdesign file or the exported version, & if the latter what file type are you exporting to? 11 minutes ago, funnyg480 said: The size of the file is 5.66MB 9600x12389, PNG so much bigger. Again, which file are you referring to? 12 minutes ago, funnyg480 said: The size of the shirt has to be 4500x5400, no more than 20mb Approx. and has to be PNG. I assume you are talking about the image printed on the shirt (since shirts do not come in pixel sizes!) but you still have not explained why the image has to be 4500 x 5400 px, no more than 20MB, or must be in the PNG format. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diane Window 10 Desktop AD Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 The last question, I don't know why they say only 4500x5400 that is what they say for uploading. I said I bought textures to see what size their file was 5.66MB 9600x12389, PNG This is the size of it according to windows 10 when I click on it. I export it to PNG cause that is what the shirt gets. Quote Windows 10 desktop ram 8g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdenby Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 There is a user here, whose handle I forget, who does/did lots of screen printing, and I recall him saying that about 150 dpi is as high as one needs for t-shirts. Quote iMac 27" Retina, c. 2015: OS X 10.11.5: 3.3 GHz I c-5: 32 Gb, AMD Radeon R9 M290 2048 Mb iPad 12.9" Retina, iOS 10, 512 Gb, Apple pencil Huion WH1409 tablet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diane Window 10 Desktop AD Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 Thank you I will change it and see if it lowers it. Quote Windows 10 desktop ram 8g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, funnyg480 said: The last question, I don't know why they say only 4500x5400 that is what they say for uploading. OK, but why can't you resize your image to those dimensions & export it for uploading it to wherever you are uploading it? Presumably it needs to be a 'flat' image in PNG format, so what is stopping you from exporting it at those pixel dimensions in Affinity Designer? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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