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Odd Lens info in Affinity photo 1.7.0.243 Beta

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Whe n uploading a NEF RAW file the lens details are not displayed,instead there is a combination of letters and numbers and it says (unknown).

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Hi Panlumix,

Unlike the final version 1.6.5 that works correctly, I also have the problem with the beta 243 but the lack of data is mentioned in plain text!

Af-exifs.jpg

Aperture and shutter speed are not mentioned :

Af-beta-exifs.jpg

Strangely, I get the same hex string as you when exiftool is present in the beta "Resources" directory!? And there, aperture and shutter speed are correct.

Af-beta-exifs-1.jpg

Hope if this can help ...

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Unfortunately, no change with the new beta 251 ...

Why does beta come without exiftool? Photo seems to need it because without him, it displays "no camera data" ...

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I still have had no response to my original post from Affinity,I have as you can see sent a copy of a photo for them to investigate.I thank you for looking into this for me,I will now try to find how to update the exiftool,I can see I have a version on my system.

I find it rather strange nobody else has posted having the same problem.

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I'm not seeing those problems. Exiftool does launch with the current Beta. However I don't know why 2 of them.

exiftool.jpg

rawexifData.jpg

rawexifData-2.jpg


Affinity Photo 1.7.0.367, ; Win10 Home Version:1803, Build: 17134.706: Intel i7-4770, 3.40GHz, 16GB Ram, Nvidia GTX 645 

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2 hours ago, Panlumix said:

I still have had no response to my original post from Affinity,I have as you can see sent a copy of a photo for them to investigate.I thank you for looking into this for me,I will now try to find how to update the exiftool,I can see I have a version on my system.

I find it rather strange nobody else has posted having the same problem.

Hi,

it's easy to update exiftool here : https://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/

what is strange is that the final version 1.6.5 came with exiftool ... anyway, I do not remember having put it there before ...

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20 minutes ago, Ron P. said:

I'm not seeing those problems. Exiftool does launch with the current Beta. However I don't know why 2 of them.

exiftool.jpg

rawexifData.jpg

rawexifData-2.jpg

Hi,

sorry, but I have two machines on which I installed the beta and neither came with exiftool ... I just put it on one of them to check this problem.

 

AF without exiftool-1.jpg

AF without exiftool-2.jpg

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Here are 2 clips one from the stable and on e from the beta,these are in resources.They both show the exifdata file,so why does the exiftool not open in the beta version?

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Photo Beta ships a copy of exiftool.exe, which you can find in the Resources subdirectory in the folder where you installed Photo Beta (e.g.,  by default at C:\Program Files\Affinity\Affinity Photo Customer Beta\Resources). It's version 11.1.4.0 according to Windows, which is 11.14 in the numbering scheme used by the Exiftool author. (That means that it is 15 releases downlevel at this point, but much newer than the version that ships with the retail version of Photo, which includes version 10.something of Exiftool.)

If you don't see it running when you use Task Manager, then something is wrong. You should see two copies running.


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Windows 10 Home, version 1903 (18362.145), 16GB memory, Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.00Gz, GeForce GTX 970
Affinity Photo 1.7.1.404 and 1.7.1.404 Beta   / Affinity Designer 1.7.1.404 and 1.7.1.404 Beta  / Affinity Publisher 1.7.1.399 Beta

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Hi Walt,that is the problem I do not see it running in Task Manager on the beta version,although it still has the exif data embedded when I open the exif drop down menu.However it does not show the lens on the top line.Capture2.PNG.50fea7aa3f81bba5480bfd2a6db836f5.PNGCapture.PNG.852959312b21e0b49f3cbf123012e818.PNG

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I have a feeling that we have already fixed this, but I need to check when I'm back in the office next week (I don't believe it's anything to do with exiftool, nor will it be solved by updating exiftool - I think...).

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I am sorry Mark but this has not been fixed,and I have the latest 251 update.I agree with you on the EXIFTOOL,however this does need updating it is quite a few behind.Looking forward to having this problem resolved,although to some it might seem minor.

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17 hours ago, Mark Ingram said:

I have a feeling that we have already fixed this, but I need to check when I'm back in the office next week (I don't believe it's anything to do with exiftool, nor will it be solved by updating exiftool - I think...).

Hi Mark,

I think I understood the problem regarding the non-installation of exiftool by the beta ... This happens if we have manually updated exiftool. I just did the test with a clean install of the beta 243 on which I manually updated exiftool with the latest 11.29 version. I then updated with beta 251. In this case, the updating process removes everything but does not reinstall exiftool! It's reproducible.

Other programs use exiftool like Photomatix and Geosetter for example. Geosetter includes an exiftool update process that starts at launch ...

geosetter maj exiftool.jpg


For the Panlumix's problem, I think that AF Photo does not correctly decode the information provided by exiftool ...

 

exif pb.jpg

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1 hour ago, Mark Ingram said:

Hi @laurentia, yes, this is to be expected as it will only remove the files that we installed. It knows that the updated exiftool was not installed by us, so it won't remove it.

Sorry Mark, but we did not understand each other! Everything is removed, but the problem is that in this case and in this case only, exiftool is not reinstalled. This is a bug in the update process.
Take the test yourself:
- uninstall the current beta,
-make a clean installation of a previous beta (243 for example),
- replace the exiftool in the Resources folder with the latest version 11.29,
- double-click on the beta 251 installer and click on the update button,
-when it's finished, go back to the Resources folder of the new beta: exiftool is not there!

As I said, it's reproductible.

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2 minutes ago, laurentia said:

replace the exiftool in the Resources folder with the latest version 11.29

At this point you have modified the installation, this is not something we anticipate (nor have tested), and not anything that we would support.

In the next release we will no longer ship exiftool, so this entire problem should go away.

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Thank you Laurentia,for your input to my problem,and also to Mark for clearing up the same.I use another  library program so I have the EXIF data there to reference from.So now I do not have to rely on AP for this info in the future.

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@Panlumix

This appears fixed in .256 (released yesterday) you may want to verify and confirm


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