William Overington Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I have just tried the version 238 beta and decided to try to find out if a previously reported problem over using the Glyph Browser has been fixed. Alas no, though even the very slight colour change seems to have gone. https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/77847-glyph-browser-search-facility/ Yet I found a peculiar problem with the glyph browser. I tied to search for the character h and just got a display with a subset of the characters that are in the font. It looked peculiar but it suddenly occurred to me that each of the characters in the subset has a letter h in the character name of the glyph in the font. Yet that only works for most of the top row. Once one gets to À (LATIN CAPITAL LETER A WITH GRAVE) that does not seem to be the rule. I tried it with other letters such a j and q and the results are interesting. William Overington Monday 18 February 2019 Quote Until December 2022, using a Lenovo laptop running Windows 10 in England. From January 2023, using an HP laptop running Windows 11 in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim_L Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) It appears to me, that this search is not meant to be for the glyph itself - which makes no sense for me, but for the description of it. Means searching for grave gives you all glyphs with a grave. Maybe else I did not understand your problem. Edited February 19, 2019 by Joachim_L Attached image Quote ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 From the Photo 1.6 Help: Quote Search—Enter a Glyph value, a Unicode value or a text phrase to locate a Glyph or Unicode character. For example, "G+0131", "U+00b0" or the phrase "degree" will all show the degree symbol, respectively. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Overington Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 @walt.farrell Yes, yet that is orthogonal to this issue. William Quote Until December 2022, using a Lenovo laptop running Windows 10 in England. From January 2023, using an HP laptop running Windows 11 in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Overington Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 @Joachim_L Well, if one is looking for a letter h there seems nothing else that one can enter into the search bar but h on its own. Maybe it was not anticipated that someone would do that, but there we are. William Quote Until December 2022, using a Lenovo laptop running Windows 10 in England. From January 2023, using an HP laptop running Windows 11 in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim_L Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Good point. In most cases I use the glyph browser in front of me (aka keyboard) for searching the h, when I want to type it into my layout. Alfred and mac_heibu 2 Quote ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, William Overington said: Well, if one is looking for a letter h there seems nothing else that one can enter into the search bar but h on its own. If I select Arial and search for 'h' or 'H' (without the quotation marks) I get a long list of results beginning with 'Apostrophe', 'Left Parenthesis', 'Right Parenthesis', 'Hyphen-Minus' and 'Digit Three'. If I search instead for 'h{space}' I get 'Latin Capital Letter A With Diaeresis', etc, and if I search for '{space} h' I get 'Latin Capital Letter H', 'Latin Small Letter H', 'Latin Capital Letter F With Hook', etc. Searching for '{space}H{space}' seems to give me only H glyphs including accents or diacritics. William Overington and mac_heibu 2 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Overington Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 33 minutes ago, Alfred said: … . Searching for '{space}H{space}' seems to give me only H glyphs including accents or diacritics. That makes sense as the Unicode name for an unaccented h would not have a space after the letter h in the description. I have often found that as I like to include characters for Esperanto in my fonts, the issue of an h circumflex needs to be considered right from the start when setting out the metrics for the font. I have only once seen printed text where the circumflex accent above the h is at the same height as for a c circumflex, thus to the side of the ascender rather than above it. I note that Polish uses a line through a lowercase l rather than try to have an accent above it. (also for uppercase) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_language#Orthography I am remined of the fact that the Arno font, by Adobe, had an end of line variant glyph for some characters, including h circumflex. Yet where could such a glyph be used? Inspired by this I wrote a poem which, when translated into Esperanto, allows such a glyph to be used at the end of each line, though there is then an issue of an apostrophe that is needed after each use of the h circumflex. A soft and lingering echo In the garden of a monk Of a great and magnificent pibroch Played before a monarch I find it interesting that I wrote (in 2008) a poem in Esperanto inspired by the glyph complement of the Arno Pro Italic font. A poem that might well never have been written if the Arno Pro Italic font had not had the ending version of the Esperanto ĥ character. A situation of typography inspiring creative writing. William Quote Until December 2022, using a Lenovo laptop running Windows 10 in England. From January 2023, using an HP laptop running Windows 11 in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac_heibu Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I fear, you don’t use a Mac, William, where it is that simple to use these kind of characters: Just hold the key down for a tiny moment and – voilà : William Overington 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, mac_heibu said: I fear, you don’t use a Mac, William, where it is that simple to use these kind of characters: Just hold the key down for a tiny moment and – voilà : William and I are both Windows users, so we have to resort to aids like this one: http://esperanto.typeit.org William Overington 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Overington Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Alfred said: William and I are both Windows users, so we have to resort to aids like this one: http://esperanto.typeit.org I did not know about that. Thank you. William 26 minutes ago, mac_heibu said: I fear, you don’t use a Mac, William, where it is that simple to use these kind of characters: Just hold the key down for a tiny moment and – voilà : Wow, you made that video specially for me. Thank you. I also found it on YouTube. William Alfred 1 Quote Until December 2022, using a Lenovo laptop running Windows 10 in England. From January 2023, using an HP laptop running Windows 11 in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac_heibu Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 44 minutes ago, Alfred said: William and I are both Windows users, so we have to resort to aids like this one: http://esperanto.typeit.org No problem at all! Windows is not the source of evil! I made this small screencast just in case, because I know, that most of Mac users don’t know about the existence of this feature. Alfred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 3 hours ago, William Overington said: Yes, yet that is orthogonal to this issue Actually, it's not. The "phrase" you can enter is part of the Unicode name of the character. 3 hours ago, William Overington said: Well, if one is looking for a letter h there seems nothing else that one can enter into the search bar but h on its own For that, consider that the complete name of "h" is "Latin Small Letter h" you could search for "letter h" or "small letter h" to avoid getting H instead. For a more realistic one, suppose you wanted an e with a grave accent. Search for "letter e with grave" or "small letter e with grave". Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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