Wickster Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Can we have the option to make the Cycle Selection Box/Reset Bounding Box stick, or be permanent? As of now, Designer lets you reset the bounding box via the Cycle Selection Box button. However, when you click out of the object and then click back to it, the bounding box returns to it's non-rectangular shape. Can we make the rectangular shaped bounding box stick, so that even re-selecting the object will retain the bounding box reset. It could be reset permanently, losing the old transformed bounding box. Or switchable, when the button is on every bounding box is rectangular and when the button is off, everything retains its transformed bounding box. For example, when you skew a square and then rotate it, you end up with an odd shaped transformation/bounding box. Which then makes it awkward to align. It also, sometimes, creates a weird space on grouped objects. Thank you and have a wonderful day. Rudolphus, Fun Art Sam, M-rivers and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted February 14, 2019 Staff Share Posted February 14, 2019 Hey Wickster, I can't really see any negatives with making it sticky but I'll admit I don't use this button very often. Unless someone can say otherwise, I'm happy to put in an improvement request. Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 The problem with this is that the resetting of the bounding box is only done for editing purposes (e.g. rotate the image, then reset the bounding box, then scale horizontally). When resetting the bounding box, it doesn't actually affect the bounds of the object. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickster Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 It does affect the bounds in some way. Attached is one of the examples where it affects the bounding box of a group. To replicate it, unskew an italic text by skewing it (or create a parallelogram and then skew it to be square) and you will see that it keeps its old bounding box, even though there isn't part of the object in that space. I hope this better explains it. adirusf, wtrmlnjuc, Fun Art Sam and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JET_Affinity Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Quote The problem with this is that the resetting of the bounding box is only done for editing purposes (e.g. rotate the image, then reset the bounding box, then scale horizontally). ?? Begging your pardon, Mark, but quite often my purposes for resetting a bounding box is to permanently reorient the selection to its current state. I dare say you'll have the same argument with decades of Illustrator users, because that program's Reset Bounding Box command is used all the time and it is only permanent; it can't be "restored" to the orientation in which the object was originally created (unless, of course, you reverse the transformation(s) performed and then Reset Bounding Box again). The "extra space" bounds which Wickster illustrates is also a stumbling block, (and I don't mean in the context of live text). Yes, I appreciate that Affinity is able to "remember" its untransformed orientation. But it's just as common to need the object to forget its original orientation, and thereafter treat its new orientation as normal. JET Tim Kyarie, wtrmlnjuc, Fun Art Sam and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fun Art Sam Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I think that a permanent reset bounding box option is essential for anyone using Affinity Designer. Based on my prior experience with Adobe Illustrator, a permanent reset bounding box is a valuable tool for an efficient workflow. It's convenient to have the option of a non-permanent reset bounding box for vector shapes that need it, but most of the time we NEED a permanent reset bounding box. Tim Kyarie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaco Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I agree with this, and Wickster's example illustrates the issue perfectly. Aligning, centering, and simply looking at the selected items is simply better with a bounding box that fits the objects snuggly. It's definitely not something that comes up often but it makes a difference when it does. I really like the cycling button, if it oculd be sticky it'd make workflows more agile. if an improvement request can be made, that would be awesome @Chris B ! Cheers all Fun Art Sam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphasical Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Yes, please make this a thing. It's really frustrating not being able to correctly align objects because of the extra space as shown in Wickster's examples. A permanent reset of the bounding box should absolutely be a feature for Affinity Designer. wtrmlnjuc and Fun Art Sam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynde Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Please make it sticky. I transform shapes to fit a composition and then want it permanent. Fun Art Sam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JET_Affinity Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Especially given that Affinity does not provide transformation tools, but insists upon all routine tactile transforms being dependent upon bounding boxes, why not provide a bit of innovation to make the omnipresent and cluttering bounding boxes more useful? An illustrator should be able to perform tactile transformations in any direction desired, not just in the horizontal and vertical directions of the page, and not just in the direction of the bounding box's current or original orientation. Why can we reset the bounding box and rotate the Canvas, but cannot rotate the bounding box itself so as to freely orient its transform handles in a direction that is meaningful to the illustration in progress? Affinity's tactile transformation handles are all attached to a bounding box which often has absolutely nothing to do with any detail-of-immediate-interest in the drawing. The bounding boxes have FIVE rotation handles! Not just one at every corner (as if we even need more than one), but also that additional giant obtrusive 'lollypop' lever. Why not simply provide a momentary key modifier that, if pressed when dragging the lollypop, will rotate the bounding box around its content, so that we could thereby freely and instantly reorient the scaling and skewing handles, and zero the rotation angle, to perform their transforms in whatever direction we need relative to the artwork? JET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 The beta forums are not really the appropriate place to make suggestions for new features, so this topic was never really in the right place. And continuing to post in it now that its archived will probably not do any good, @JET_Affinity. I suggest that you post your suggestions in one of the Feedback forums as that's where the appropriate Serif staff will be looking for them. and they may have some affect on future development. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JET_Affinity Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 9/15/2020 at 10:36 AM, walt.farrell said: The beta forums are not really the appropriate place to make suggestions for new features... I'm aware of that and quite agree. However, what got me here was clicking a Notification yesterday that responded to one of my posts. The subject caused me to assume I was in the feature request forum. This whole thread should have been moved. JET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 9/15/2020 at 9:04 AM, JET_Affinity said: The bounding boxes have FIVE rotation handles! Not just one at every corner (as if we even need more than one), but also that additional giant obtrusive 'lollypop' lever. Yeah. What's up with that thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 52 minutes ago, prophet said: Yeah. What's up with that thing? It can be used for rotation or for skewing. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: It can be used for rotation or for skewing. For me, when I hover over the "lolly," the cursor changes to rotate. I can't make Skew happen there. But to @JET_Affinity's somewhat implied point, the handle seems redundant when you have the other 8 handles to make rotation and skew happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, prophet said: I can't make Skew happen Slide the mouse cursor down toward the object and it should change from rotate to skew. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Slide the mouse cursor down toward the object and it should change from rotate to skew. I think that is a result of the cursor interaction with the top center handle of the bounding box after losing focus on the "lollypop." Similar to the other centered handles at left, right, and bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickster Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 @Mark Ingram Hi Mark. Can we move this thread to the feature request section? I was hoping it would get tackled during the 1.8 beta, but it still hasn't been implemented. Yet the issue and the request to fix/change how the object bounding box is still needed in my opinion. I just don't want this issue to be forgotten or not considered in future updates. I also don't want to start a new thread in the request section and leave out the important comments and points already made in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 On 9/17/2020 at 6:23 PM, Wickster said: @Mark Ingram Hi Mark. Can we move this thread to the feature request section? I was hoping it would get tackled during the 1.8 beta, but it still hasn't been implemented. Yet the issue and the request to fix/change how the object bounding box is still needed in my opinion. I just don't want this issue to be forgotten or not considered in future updates. I also don't want to start a new thread in the request section and leave out the important comments and points already made in this thread. Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ra.skill Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 +1 on this feature, would make life a lit easier in some cases. My biggest issue with this is it is effects the "Picture Frame" when bringing artwork into Publisher... makes artwork appear much bigger than it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanJEC Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just wanted to add I use "Cycle Selection Box" to set "Regular Bounds" to get pixel precision on Group/Compound layers for UI design so an option to make it a permanent toggle is essential for my workflow. Currently hitting this button every time I switch layers can be tedious. ra.skill and Megnusin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikpawlak Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Definitely a wanted feature. +1 from me. Megnusin and ra.skill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_J Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 I'd like to see this feature too. +1 Megnusin and ra.skill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leusing Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Here, the same annoying problems with incorrect alignment due to a rotated cycle selection box that uses more empty space than necessary. Please add a feature to permanently reset the "cycle selection box", not only temporary with the "." shortcut. +1 Thank you. Megnusin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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