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[Old Bruce]

59 minutes ago, R C-R said:

The one, not at all surprising, thing that would crash it consistently & immediately is trying to Place the saved document into itself. 

Thanks for trying that for me, I have oft been tempted to do so myself. [better-you-than-me emoticon] [wicked-grin emoticon]

[R C-R]

1 minute ago, Old Bruce said:

Thanks for trying that for me, I have oft been tempted to do so myself. [better-you-than-me emoticon] [wicked-grin emoticon]

I guess I should report this as a bug ... perhaps to the Department of Redundancy Department at Serif? 

[lepr]

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[v_kyr]

7 minutes ago, >|< said:

Unsurprisingly, that does not crash the app on my machine (AD 1.6.1 on macOS 10.13.6). I can embed your document inside itself. Furthermore, I can then re-save the document, open the embedded document in a new tab and embed the re-saved document inside that, and so on.

When you embed a document, a copy of the document is embedded, not a reference to a document file. In your example, it's not as if the parent document was put in a state where it recursively referenced itself, so why were you not surprised by a crash that should not have happened?

Same here!

[v_kyr]

One thing which doesn't seem to work for me on OSX is ...

• you have a document1 with an embedded other document2
• you expand the embedded document2 from document1 so it appears in an own tab
• now you try to "open" the usual way via "File > open" document2 ...

... that doesn't work, it won't open document2 the normal way as far as it is already expanded from document1 in an <embedded> tab.

However, opening document1 and document2 first the usual way and then expanding the embedded document2 from document1 works instead.

[R C-R]

3 minutes ago, v_kyr said:

Same here!

Sorry, I did not make it clear that the file I uploaded is not the one that crashed the app. I am not sure of the exact sequence of steps that caused the crash in the one that did crash it, but I suspect one of the prior (random?) crashes I mentioned had something to do with it.

All I know for sure is I have crash logs that say the crashed thread was "Dispatch queue: com.apple.root.default-qos" with an exception code of "KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000160."

I have no idea whether that indicates something in the Affinity app or my copy of High Sierra or something else caused the crashes.

[lepr]

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[R C-R]

1 minute ago, >|< said:

OK, but why did you say that the crash was unsurprising?

Because it did not surprise me -- it was just the last in a series of crashes that occurred while working with that file before I gave up on it.

Another odd thing about it is every time I relaunched Designer after one of those crashes, before I even went to "Open Recent" or otherwise tried to open the file, Designer opened with the Preferences window open, even though I had not even opened that window since a day or two ago & had worked on several other files since doing that.

[lepr]

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[lepr]

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[R C-R]

12 minutes ago, >|< said:

Exactly the excuse that I expected, lol.

Why do you consider that an excuse? The file had already crashed the app several times, displaying the Preferences window every time I relaunched it, & even when it was not crashing the app I noted several odd behaviors like bounding boxes that did not surround the selected layer & odd rendering artifacts that disappeared when I changed the zoom level, so why would I be surprised when it crashed the app yet again?

[lepr]

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[R C-R]

34 minutes ago, >|< said:

Give us a break. The context of your statement about the "unsurprising" crash made it entirely obvious that you thought that embedding a [copy of a] document inside the document would inevitably crash the app.

What I said was "The one, not at all surprising, thing that would crash it consistently & immediately is trying to Place the saved document into itself." In that sentence "it" referred to the file I was experimenting with, not the one I uploaded. If that context was not clear, I apologize for that, but I was mostly just interested in seeing if there were any limits on how deeply I could embed documents in other documents, kind of like Russian nested dolls (which inspired the shapes in the uploaded file).

Like I said, there did not seem to be any limits, but at some point I started getting crashes, not with the uploaded file but with the one I was experimenting with. And in that file, once the crashes started happening, each time I restored it, the one thing that would crash it immediately & consistently was trying to embed the saved copy into it. The prior crashes were not like that -- sometimes there would be a delay before the app crashed with a spinning 'beachball' cursor; other times bounding boxes weren't working right or artifacts were appearing for some time before it crashed. I lost track of all the changes I made, so I really don't know how many embedded layers I had added to the file (there were a lot) or which changes the app was having problems coping with.

All I know for sure is that after some change to the file the one thing that would crash it immediately was trying to embed a copy into it. By then, considering all the odd behaviors I had already seen, I was not in the least surprised by that. Clearly, something in the recovered file was wonky. I just don't know what it was or how to repeat it with what I still had saved as independent files.

1 hour ago, >|< said:

You even went on to say that you should report that behaviour as a bug after another member confirmed that they similarly had a crash when trying to do the same.

If you mean the reply by @Old Bruce, he did not say he had a crash, just that he thanked me for trying something he had been tempted to try. My reply to that was intended as an inside joke about there being a "Department of Redundancy Department" at Serif, which was an intentionally obscure reference to a catch phrase from an old Fireside Theater skit. It is one of several that I have occasionally tried to sneak into posts to see if anybody else would recognize the source. So far, nobody has.

[Old Bruce]

4 minutes ago, R C-R said:

an old Fireside Theater skit.

I loved their album 'All Hail Marx and Lennon'. but surely it is Firesign Theater.

"Don't call me Shirley"

[lepr]

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[R C-R]

1 minute ago, Old Bruce said:

I loved their album 'All Hail Marx and Lennon'. but surely it is Firesign Theater.

"Don't call me Shirley"

Yes, Shirley you are right about the spelling. 

BTW, as obscure as Firesign Theater references are to most, if you have an iPhone, tell Siri, "This is worker speaking. Hello." This is the surprising backstory of the response.

[R C-R]

5 minutes ago, >|< said:

The lengths some people will go to.

Funny. I was thinking the same thing about some of your comments.