Text frame on Master Pages

[Petar Petrenko]

Hi,

Text frame that is added on master page should be unlocked on document pages (if you do not want to allow it to all master page elements), because there is a need to adjust it to fit the text properlly.

[fde101]

Right-click the master layer on the Layers studio panel and select Edit Detached... though I'm not sure why it actually needs to fit the text on a specific page.

[Petar Petrenko]

Too much complicated. Text boxes are, by default, unlocked in Quark and ID. 

[fde101]

Affinity Publisher is not Quark and is not ID.

Locking the positions by default helps to protect the layout from being messed up if you accidentally move something that didn't need to be moved, so it seems to me to be a more sensible default, since NOT changing them from the master should be the normal practice in most cases.

 

Perhaps the default setting of this option could be made a preference?

[Petar Petrenko]

1 hour ago, fde101 said:

Affinity Publisher is not Quark and is not ID.

Locking the positions by default helps to protect the layout from being messed up if you accidentally move something that didn't need to be moved, so it seems to me to be a more sensible default, since NOT changing them from the master should be the normal practice in most cases.

 

Perhaps the default setting of this option could be made a preference?

So you would like to say every one who works in Quark mess things up. Hmmm, I am using Quark since v. 3.31 and I didn’t mess up anything. Neither other Quark users. If so, Noone would ever use it or Quark developers shoud do something about that “problem”. 

[fde101]

3 minutes ago, Petar Petrenko said:

So you would like to say every one who works in Quark mess things up.

No, that is not at all what I am saying.

First, consider that Publisher has a lower price point than QXP and is likely to attract a much larger user base of people who are less experienced with professional-level software.

While the primary audience of Publisher is professionals, putting in some sensible measures like this should help to make it a bit easier for those who are learning and stepping into using higher-end programs.

I would expect this kind of customization of a page from a master to be the exception rather than the rule so I don't think that needing to enable that option first is in any way a hardship.  Changing the layout on each page defeats one of the main benefits of having the master pages in the first place (a consistent, established layout from page to page).

I do think a preference for the default for this setting would be appropriate.  If you prefer to have it wide open by default then set it once in preferences and it is done... but I also think the current default is probably ideal for enough of the user base that it should remain as the default upon installation.

[Petar Petrenko]

Publisher is for proffesionals and quark is not? What are you talking about. Publisher has to eat tons pf bread to become as Quark. 

Amateurs are those one who messes everithing up, not proffesionals. 

[fde101]

No, both are targeting professionals, but at its price point, Publisher will attract a larger user base from among those who are not.

I would argue that QXP would be better off adopting this behavior from Publisher,  but due its higher price point it can more easily get away with doing what it is doing.

Also, consider that QXP has an option to quickly resync an individual object back to the master, while Publisher currently lacks that option.  Until Publisher is updated with the ability to resync, the impact of accidentally grabbing something and moving it from where it should be is harder to recover from, particularly if you have some things that were supposed to be moved and others that were not.

[Seneca]

I actually like the way it's done in Publisher, although I realise that this setup is great for books and and so much for magazines where you need to tweak things all the time.

In another thread here in the forum I suggested to have a per text box customisation. This could/should be done on Master Pages where you could choose what behaviour a text box should adopt. This way one could easily emulate either QXP or inDesign way of doing things. With the added advantage that one could actually achieve a hybrid setup.