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3 hours ago, ggosack said:

When starting Designer on Windows, the small circle next to the eyedropper is always red.  Is there a way to change it?

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Glenn

That is the last (most recent) sampled colour. If you want it to be used you click on the red and it will load into your fill or stroke whichever is frontmost. If you don't want it to be red just sample a different colour.

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49 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

That is the last (most recent) sampled colour. If you want it to be used you click on the red and it will load into your fill or stroke whichever is frontmost. If you don't want it to be red just sample a different colour.

I don't know how it is on Mac, but @ggosack seems to be right that on Windows the color picker well is always a shade of red when you first start Designer.

I don't see it as a big problem, because (as you say) I can just sample another color if I want to. But it seems odd that it always starts as red, and I haven't found a way to get it to default to something else.

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3 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

color picker well is always a shade of red when you first start Designer.

It is so in APhoto.

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2 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

on Windows the color picker well is always a shade of red when you first start Designer.

Hmmm... Black on Mac, and it didn't change after I tried to save as default. 

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14 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

I don't see it as a big problem

Unfortunately, it behaves inappropriately when defining gradient colors (fx Gradient Overlay), where it is really unpleasant - they can not easily copy/transfer colors, because they are always reset to red :-(

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1 hour ago, Pšenda said:

Unfortunately, it behaves inappropriately when defining gradient colors (fx Gradient Overlay), where it is really unpleasant - they can not easily copy/transfer colors, because they are always reset to red :-(

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by that.

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11 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by that.

Try set the color with eyedropper in fx.

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33 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

Try set the color with eyedropper in fx.

Ah. Thanks. At least, the main eyedropper maintains the last-picked color, so you can use its color well instead of the one from the fx gradient dialog. But yes, it would be nice if both kept the last-picked color, rather than either always resetting to red.

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6 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

so you can use its color well instead of the one from the fx gradient dialog

??? Of course you can not. By clicking outside of the input dialog when defining colors for fx, the input is canceled and the dialog closes.

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3 hours ago, Pšenda said:

??? Of course you can not. By clicking outside of the input dialog when defining colors for fx, the input is canceled and the dialog closes.

Maybe I have misunderstood what you mean but for example, for a Gradient Overlay FX, can't you click on the gradient color sample, select one of the gradient color stops, & use the color well & its color picker to set the stop color?
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1 hour ago, R C-R said:

Maybe I have misunderstood

Yes.
The subject matter of the thread is, that the picker (eyedropper) always resets to red after start. In fx is reset to red every time you use it.

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17 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

In fx is reset to red every time you use it.

I understand that seems to be an issue with the Windows version. But can't you still use the color well & picker in the FX dialog window to pick whatever color you want for a gradient color stop? Using that picker does not close the window, does it?

Also, is it setting both of the default gradient color stops to red? If not, how would you set the color of either stop, or the color of a new one?

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7 hours ago, Pšenda said:

??? Of course you can not. By clicking outside of the input dialog when defining colors for fx, the input is canceled and the dialog closes.

It didn't for me. The color panel for the fx dialog closed, but the fx dialog remained open, with my color applied.

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6 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

It didn't for me. The color panel for the fx dialog closed, but the fx dialog remained open, with my color applied.

I wonder if you & @Pšenda are talking about different color wells and/or pickers. Maybe if you both added a screenshot or two it would make things clearer?

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9 hours ago, R C-R said:

@Pšenda are talking about different color wells and/or pickers

I'm still talking about fx.

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13 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

I'm still talking about fx.

So am I, but I think you are talking about trying to use the color well or picker in the Swatches or maybe Color Studio panel or the context toolbar to set an fx color. That doesn't work on the Mac versions either, nor do I think it is intended to do so.

They are two separate things, one of which I believe is intended to operate only on layer effects, & the other on layer objects themselves.

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5 minutes ago, R C-R said:

to set an fx color. That doesn't work on the Mac 

I know it does not work (on Win), but Walt uses it like that.

23 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

the main eyedropper maintains the last-picked color, so you can use its color well instead of the one from the fx gradient dialog

 

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3 hours ago, Pšenda said:

I'm still talking about fx.

 

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Just verified this always happens in my Designer also. This should be reported as a bug. If whenever you go into the gradient color picker and it is red, then why even have the color picker swatch available there? It should most likely match the one in the main toolbar. 

 

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4 hours ago, Dclone2 said:

If whenever you go into the gradient color picker and it is red

And it is very unpleasant in define the gradient. I capture and set one color with picker. The second color is the same, it just needs a little darker/lighter. However, because the picker always resets to red, I have to set the second color complicated. Either again with a picker (which may be a problem in some cases - find the exact same color), or I need to enter the exact values. If the color remained in the picker (as it works elsewhere), it's one click.

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36 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

And it is very unpleasant in define the gradient. I capture and set one color with picker. The second color is the same, it just needs a little darker/lighter. However, because the picker always resets to red, I have to set the second color complicated. Either again with a picker (which may be a problem in some cases - find the exact same color), or I need to enter the exact values. If the color remained in the picker (as it works elsewhere), it's one click.

I am not sure how often a color stop needs to be the same as the first (or any other color stop in the gradient) except for being a little darker/lighter, but if you want to base one off one that is already set, you can just use the picker in the dialog to pick the first right there in the gradient display.

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