keypix Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 Hi I am unable to get prints from Photo as good or accurate as I can from Photoshop. The problem I am having is not so much colour but density, the AP prints are much darker in the shadows with dark detail blocking up whereas the Photoshop prints are pretty much perfect with subtle shadow detail printed as I’m seeing on screen. Both monitor & printer are calibrated with custom profiles and rendering intent is the same when printing from both applications. Has anybody else seen this difference and can offer any solutions?? I’m using Mac High Sierra printing to an Epson 7600 thanks Quote
walt.farrell Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 Have you tried Soft Proofing? Pariah73 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
keypix Posted January 27, 2019 Author Posted January 27, 2019 7 hours ago, walt.farrell said: Have you tried Soft Proofing? Hi Walt yes they look fine with ‘soft proof’ layer, exactly the same as they do in Photoshop. The only difference is when printing through Photoshop I’m using colour ‘managed by Photoshop’ where as in AP it has to print via the system. Quote
R C-R Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 2 hours ago, keypix said: The only difference is when printing through Photoshop I’m using colour ‘managed by Photoshop’ where as in AP it has to print via the system. On Macs, you can set the color management options in the Print Dialog after clicking the "Show Details" button. As shown here, there are various pop-up menu items & options that change depending on what item you choose. The items & options vary depending on the printer make & model so I don't know what they look like for your Epson 7600, but for example, this is what I see for my (ancient) Canon MP620 when I select the "Color Matching" popup item: As you can see, I have set it to use ColorSync matching instead of the Canon printer's matching & the "Automatic" ColorSync profile. There is a second option besides "Automatic" named "Other Profiles" that opens yet another window where I can choose any color profile installed on my system & override the one set in Affinity. Like I said, the popup menu items & options for your printer will probably be very different from mine, so it is a good idea to refer to your printer's manual for help with what you need to select to either let your printer or ColorSync control printer color management. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
keypix Posted January 27, 2019 Author Posted January 27, 2019 So after much testing, wasted paper and Ink, I have finally found the answer!! I recreated the paper profile to an ICC version 2 (instead of the default 4) using Xrite Colormunki. It turns out Colorsync has a problem with V4 ICC printer profiles (at least in my case) and will crush shadow/black areas. I remember having this problem many years ago trying to print from Apple's Aperture but would have thought it had been resolved by now. The reason it doesn't manifest itself with Photoshop is Adobe takes overs the CMS and bypasses Colorsync and Adobe's conversion engine is fine with V4 ICCs. Its a very subtle difference but its definitely noticeable in the shadows, if you have a V4 ICC and want to test for yourself I would recommend printing an Evaluation Print through 'Photoshop Managed' and then through 'Printer Managed' and use Colorsync to choose the correct printer profile. Thanks for everyones replies. Now need to go and by some more ink and paper :-( Quote
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