YvetteS Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Hi, I am using a font that is not standard and the printshop does not recognize it. They asked me to embed my text / converted it to outlines. How do I do this in Publisher? Thanks, Yvette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Welcome to the Affinity forum, Yvette. To convert to curves, select the text layer in the Layers panel. Then from the Menu bar, Layer > Convert to Curves. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kdog3682 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 5 hours ago, YvetteS said: Hi, I am using a font that is not standard and the printshop does not recognize it. They asked me to embed my text / converted it to outlines. How do I do this in Publisher? Thanks, Yvette Just wondering, what format are you sending to the printshop? Shouldn't you be able to print easily as JPG, PNG or PDF no matter whether or not their platform has the font? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, kdog3682 said: Shouldn't you be able to print easily as JPG, PNG or PDF PDF is generally the preferred format. If the fonts are embedded in the PDF file then yes, otherwise no. While fonts can be embedded using the Affinity programs, one catch is that it is mostly all-or-nothing: you embed all of the (non-standard?) fonts, or none of them. If any of your fonts are licensed in such a way that you cannot legally embed them, this means that you can't embed any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, kdog3682 said: ...Shouldn't you be able to print easily as JPG, PNG or PDF no matter whether or not their platform has the font? 2 minutes ago, fde101 said: PDF is generally the preferred format. If the fonts are embedded in the PDF file then yes, otherwise no... Some print establishments simply use out-dated or improper methods for imposing and/or processing PDFs. Often this involves Illustrator or old RIPs, etc., that, like current Affinity applications, cannot process PDFs without having the fonts required. And other print establishments may need to alter submitted PDFs for legitimate reasons and Illy is horrible at that task. There are processes that these establishments can use if they are willing to invest some money whereby they can silently outline (convert to curves) any and all text without needing to have the fonts. They simply don't invest int he applications that can do so. fde101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YvetteS Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 15 hours ago, fde101 said: While fonts can be embedded using the Affinity programs, one catch is that it is mostly all-or-nothing: you embed all of the (non-standard?) fonts, or none of them. with convert to curves I can embed each text separately, correct? or is there another/better way to do this in Publisher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, YvetteS said: with convert to curves I can embed each text separately, correct? Yes, but when you convert to curves you lose hinting, which can cause text to become less clear and readable at smaller sizes. If there is a lot of text involved, it can also bloat the size of the file that gets produced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YvetteS Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, fde101 said: Yes, but when you convert to curves you lose hinting, which can cause text to become less clear and readable at smaller sizes. If there is a lot of text involved, it can also bloat the size of the file that gets produced. I have small text (6pt), but not much. What would be the best way to outline it (as my printshop requires)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, YvetteS said: I have small text (6pt), but not much. What would be the best way to outline it (as my printshop requires)? It's always best to do what the print establishment wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 27 minutes ago, YvetteS said: I have small text (6pt), but not much. What would be the best way to outline it Others on the forum with more experience dealing with outside printers might have better ideas but if the font can't be provided to the print shop for licensing reasons (or because of limitations on their end) I would probably be more inclined to rasterize the text rather than converting it to curves if the text is that small, making sure to rasterize it at the same resolution it will be printed at. Just do that in a *copy* of your document (or duplicate the layer containing the text and hide the original, rasterizing the duplicate) before creating the PDF for the printer, so that if you need to change it later on you still have the original layer to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmcd Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 What font are you using? I would like to take a look at the actual settings in the font file. Can you PM the font to me? I would also like to test what happens using various 3rd-party PDF printer drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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